Is my CPU performance locked somehow?

BakphooN · Jan 26, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y32mBdZHJY&t=4s

In this video, the guy has an i3 2100 + GT 1030 and he gets 117FPS on CS:GO on 1080p.

I have an i3 2120 (supposedly better) + GT 1030, and I get 120-130FPS on CS:GO on only 720p.

Why am I getting lower fps when the 2120 is better? Is it because I have 4GB RAM? Please help

derekullo · Jan 26, 2018

The game is most likely being bottlenecked by the cpu and or gpu.

Getting a higher fps at a lower resolution is to be expected.

Moving up to an i5 or Geforce 1050 would give a substantial boost to fps.

But with such an old cpu/motherboard it makes more sense to just make an whole new computer.

How much more fps do you need?

biffe · Jan 26, 2018

derekullo :

ahh comon try to read the post. He's asking for ideas why he's not getting the same amount as the guy in the video, and he has even better processor but same gpu. He could have OC'ed the GPU, lowered the quality settings to keep up a high fps.

BakphooN · Jan 26, 2018

derekullo :

That's not the point. I don't get why a better processor delivers less FPS than the guy in the video.

BakphooN · Jan 26, 2018

biffe :

Yes that may be true but I don't think overclocking can lead to such good results, especially for a GT1030.

I thought maybe it is because some of my cores are parked?

madmatt30 · Jan 26, 2018

Hes not getting better fps than you, you're getting around 10fps more which equates to your cpu being ever so slightly more powerful.

Ignore the resolution difference - this is clearly a cpu limitation.

BakphooN · Jan 26, 2018

madmatt30 :

Resolution doesn't affect FPS? Wot XD

madmatt30 · Jan 26, 2018

No itndoesmt affect performance when you're cpu limited at all.

If your i3 can only hit 120fps at 1080p it can still only hit the same fps at 720p & 480p aswell.

When a games fps is limited by cpu power its limited at any resolution you care to use.

The Paladin · Jan 26, 2018

Just play it in 1080p and you will find your frame per seconds, will be about what you have it at 720p.

The difference between the 2100 and 2120 are minimal (+0.3Mhz of speed). I would not expect the difference between the two in FPS.
I could see if your motherboard might be different if he ran his on a Z board and you running your on a n H board, he could get closer numbers in FPS than you would expect.

BakphooN · Jan 26, 2018

madmatt30 :

Any way to make my power unlimited? (sorry if I sound dumb

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BakphooN · Jan 26, 2018

The Paladin :

1366x768 monitor T_T

My motherboard is MSI H61M-P31 (G3). Does it affect fps?

madmatt30 · Jan 26, 2018

Then you're not really getting any benefit running over 60fps anyway - I have no belief that running higher fps than native monitor refresh enhances csgo in responsiveness or lag (& I know a million+ csgo players would disagree with me)

You can force a 1080p downscaled resolution with nvidia dsr (available in nvidia settings) if you really want to test out if the limitation is cpu.

You could also drop the ingame resolution to 480p - if the fps does not increase exponentially then its 100% a cpu limitation.

BakphooN · Jan 26, 2018

madmatt30 :

High FPS reduces input lag and makes the game feel more smoother. Why would professional players be playing on 400FPS lol

I will try that for sure.

BakphooN · Jan 26, 2018

madmatt30 :

Yup! The same FPS at 480p. So theoretically, if I get a 1080p monitor, I should get the same FPS right? Thank you for clearing my doubt

derekullo · Jan 26, 2018

biffe :

You both can claim that 117 is higher than 120-130, but it doesn't make it true.

A better cpu giving higher fps at a lower resolution is just common sense.

Try ... learning math and reading the post before telling others to read the post.

biffe · Jan 27, 2018

derekullo :

I havent claimed anything, I asked him to read the case before recommending hardware upgrades. I can't tell how you figured out that I claim anything. To throw in the /math card is a bit old and tired isnt it, especially in a post where there is limited math if any at all. You do know that good mathematics dont have to raise that flag with it right?

BakphooN · Jan 27, 2018

So is there any way to remove with CPU limitation?

The Paladin · Jan 27, 2018

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So is there any way to remove with CPU limitation?

For your current cpu , no, but easily remedied with a nice used l7-2600k, of course this will all depends on the motherboard you have, because if your motherboard is not good to overclock then it is pointless to get a (k) cpu, just get an I7-2600 and enjoy the power.

Of course that also depends if your running a desktop or a laptop

and if your desktop is not a hp or ibm or dell...
so what motherboard do you have ?

BakphooN · Jan 27, 2018

The Paladin :

MSI H61M-P31 (G3). Is it capable?

The Paladin · Jan 27, 2018

MSI H61M-P31 (G3). Is it capable?

unfortunately the H series boards are not reliable to overclock, so the answer is no.

but according to http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-MSI/H61M-P31_(G3).html

You should be able to upgrade to i5-2500, I5-3550, or i5-3570 and if you find a deal or can afford it get I7-2600 or i7-3770 even to get most power out of your computer

just to make you understand the power upgrade just by changing your cpu as explained above here are the benchmark score of an I3-2120, and I5-3570, and I7-3770. as you see its massive upgrades from i3 to I5 to i7.

BakphooN · Jan 27, 2018

The Paladin :

Well I was thinking about the Pentium G4560, which is equivalent to a latest gen i3 and is perfect for budget builds. Will it also do the same thing my current processor is doing though?

The Paladin · Jan 27, 2018

just to make you understand the power upgrade just by changing your cpu as explained above here are the benchmark score of an I3-2120, and I5-3570, and I7-3770. as you see its massive upgrades from i3 to I5 to i7.

the G4560 is not a cpu that fits on your board.

And comparing it to your current cpu, you will see that an I5 upgrade on your system is better then upgrading to a g4560

Upgrading to a g4560 means a new motherboard as well. and will cost more than buying a I5-3570.

BakphooN · Jan 27, 2018

The Paladin :

Ooh I see.

Really? Never knew about that lol XD Is my mobo really old (sorry if i sound dumb)

But the G4560 is like a 100 bucks while the i5 3570 is about 200, thats why i considered it but I guess some things are not meant to be XD

The Paladin · Jan 27, 2018

not that simple..... the cpu G4560 means you need to change motherboard and ram. which makes itr more expensive, but also on the good side permits you to upgrade later upwards in newer technology.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($72.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - B250M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: GeIL - EVO POTENZA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $202.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-27 07:59 EST-0500

I see on eBay right now i5-3550 for 40-60$, 3570 for 60-75$
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=i5+3570

BakphooN · Jan 27, 2018

The Paladin :

Well the problem is that I am in India, and the i5-3550 is 580.767 dollars on Amazon

edit: the 3570 is $444

Is my CPU performance locked somehow?

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