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Still kinda new to building this stuff, but i wanted to give it a shot. I do have a limited knowledge of this however I'm learning a lot, mostly from this site and some stuff from school. I put the link to the list i made on amazon. Any help would be wonderful and deeply appreciated.

https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/3I9DE9B93E1LO

I'd like to have a better pc then I currently have to game and multi task with. I purposefully didn't include an optical drive or operating system because i already have extras of these.
 
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Here you go. You have to increase your budget but this will work for you. If you feel like trying to find monitors second hand that'll probably save you some money.
If you only go with two monitors then it gets cheaper because you aren't using DP and only using HDMI and DVI

Of course, you can also look around for a second hand 1050ti as well and maybe the CPU/Mobo/RAM. Pretty much if you can piece together something second hand as well that'll save you money for sure. My PC is mostly second hand parts and in total I probably invested only about $600 into it by buying...
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I would suggest using https://pcpartpicker.com/ instead of amazon to create your build, it will offer more options from various site son pricing.

Next thing I would recommended is that you get the 1050ti over the 1050, for the little bit extra that it is its a better deal.

And as far as RAM dont buy single stick, buy it in sets, so 2x4GB, to take advantage of dual channel. Also try and buy the fastest RAM you can since Ryzen really likes fast RAM.

 
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Yeah I was wondering about that single vs dual channel ram thing. I was going to ask one of me professors about that; whats the benefits of dual over single?

 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($164.49 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 KRAIT GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($80.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($102.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.04 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($75.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card ($224.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Raidmax - Cobra 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Total: $781.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-31 15:28 EST-0500

Better?
 
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I wouldn't waste money with the Firecuda, a standard Barracuda drive is plenty. Also, I don't know about your PSU selection, I haven't heard anybody sing any praises about Raidmax. You generally want to stick with Corsair, EVGA, or Seasonic. With PSUs, cheap is not good, a cheap PSU can kill your entire build. Trust me on that, I've found out the hard way.
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($164.49 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 KRAIT GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($80.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($102.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.04 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card ($224.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.96 @ Newegg)
Total: $750.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-31 15:50 EST-0500
 
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thanks for the advice man. I made the changes to the hard drive and power supply
 
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Yep, looks good.
 
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The difference between dual channel and single channel is simple. Let's say you are investing into 16GB of RAM. A single stick you purchase runs at a speed of 3000Mhz. Buying two 8GB sticks for a total of 16GB will run faster because in dual channel mode the speed of each stick is added together so your 16GB of memory will run at a speed of 6000Mhz instead of 3000Mhz.

Barracuda drives are great for price/performance
a 1050ti is a better entry level option than a 1050.
and following the guide above for purchasing a PSU is highly advised.
also, In the list below I changed the RAM from Ripjaws 4 to 5. you lose out on 200Mhz of speed but the 5 series is better compatibility.

Tell me your budget and I can put something together for you to get an idea of what you can get and you can then of course take it from there and customize it a little to your liking if you want.

Based right now off of your PCPP list I will give you a build assuming the budget is about $800 give or take.
This of course does not include taxes and possibly any shipping costs for where you live. But retail this is what I put together for you $800

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($91.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($101.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB OC Edition Video Card ($204.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Total Before Rebates: $801.83
Total After Rebates: $768.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-31 16:07 EST-0500
 
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my prince range was around $700, give or take a little. I'm not one to cheap out on things to trade quality for budget friendly but I'm also not one to go way beyond what I actually need. Thank you so much for that explanation on dual channel ram, that makes a lot of sense. I manly want to use it for database stuff, some light programming, and some gaming. I mostly just play FPS like battlefield and over watch.
 
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doing three monitors I'm assuming is not a part of that $700 budget right? because if so, you aren't gonna get anything for that. Seeing as how the Ryzen line up doesn't have an integrated graphics processor you have to have a GPU to get an image on a monitor and the GPU I selected for you (which is the cheapest you can get that's going to perform) only has 1xDP / 1xHDMI / 1xDVI. So if you went with a triple monitor setup you'd have to make sure at least one of them has input for Display Port and then make sure the other ones support HDMI and DVI respectively due to the outputs available on your GPU.

Also, if you don't have a case for the build then that needs to be factored into the budget as well.
I tried to get you as close to the $700 mark as possible without choosing crap components.
You can get yourself below that mark if you sacrifice the SSD but that is entirely up to you.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($71.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($101.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($48.50 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB OC Edition Video Card ($204.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake - Versa H22 ATX Mid Tower Case ($32.96 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total Before Rebates: $723.30
Total After Rebates: $720.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-31 17:25 EST-0500
 
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Here you go. You have to increase your budget but this will work for you. If you feel like trying to find monitors second hand that'll probably save you some money.
If you only go with two monitors then it gets cheaper because you aren't using DP and only using HDMI and DVI

Of course, you can also look around for a second hand 1050ti as well and maybe the CPU/Mobo/RAM. Pretty much if you can piece together something second hand as well that'll save you money for sure. My PC is mostly second hand parts and in total I probably invested only about $600 into it by buying parts on the cheap then putting a system together and selling it at value which made me profit until I got to the upgrade level I was happy with.

Since I mentioned it my system specs are as follows:
i7-6700k
NZXT Kraken X62 Rev. 2.0
ASUS Strix Pro Gaming Motherboard
16GB (2x8) 2400Mhz DDR4
250GB Samsung 840 EVO SSD
Seagate 1.5TB HDD x2 (3TB Total)
ASUS Strix GTX 1070 Gaming
NZXT 2340 Elite PC case (custom model with dual tempered side glass panels)
600w 80+ Bronze Semi Modular PSU (Antec I think. Works fine for me)

Again, after working at it for a couple of months I invested out of pocket at the end around $600.
But if you don't live in an area that's ripe with postings on craigslist, letgo and offerup and you maybe don't have the time to invest into getting everything you want/need for the price you desire then you'll have to go with the option of buying new online.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($71.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($101.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($48.50 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB OC Edition Video Card ($204.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: BenQ - GW2265HM 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($88.59 @ Amazon)
Monitor: BenQ - GW2265HM 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($88.59 @ Amazon)
Total: $864.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-31 17:47 EST-0500
 
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that works perfectly but i do not need the monitors. i have a lot of these

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/acer-h6-series-23-ips-led-hd-monitor-black/4751006.p?skuId=4751006&ref=212&loc=1&ksid=4b7009bd-43ae-4562-bfa9-58dc600d3ce5&ksprof_id=8&ksaffcode=pg199001&ksdevice=c&lsft=ref:212,loc:2

lying around lol
 
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I updated my post BTW.
And those monitors are no good unless you have adapters to adapt DVI and HDMI to VGA (the HDMI one probably needing to be an HDMI to DVI converter plugged into a DVI to VGA converter) because that monitor you linked me only has VGA input according to it's specs and the 1050Ti doesn't have a VGA output.
 
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dont they make an adapter cable? like DVI to hdmi?
 
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yes, you can get a DVI to HDMI adapter but like I said, the monitor you linked me for Acer doesn't support any other input than VGA unless you linked me the wrong monitor. You will need a monitor that supports HDMI input and one that supports DVI or supports DVI on both or HDMI on both and get an adapter for DVI to HDMI or HDMI to DVI to make it work or go the completely convoluted route of using the VGA input monitors and getting adapters to go HDMI to DVI to VGA and then a DVI to VGA because the 1050Ti only has one Display Port, one HDMI port and one DVI port and no VGA port for output.
 
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Raidmax is pretty terrible - one of the worst brands you can buy from. Those PSUs are house fire quality. I would definitely replace with something better. Seasonic Gs or B series are usually solid choices in that category.
 
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