GTX 1080 Stuttering and FPS drop in all games?

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Hello All, I have had this problem for months now and I have tried almost everything. In All games that I play, every minute or so there is a noticeable stutter when the fps drops. It is incredible annoying and usually last 1-2 seconds. I have monitored my temps, both on the GPU and CPU, and both appear to be running fine. However, I logged graphs using hwmonitor pro and I notice that my gpu utilization is spiking rapidly while in games. I tried to set the power option to "Prefer Maximum Performance", but that did not fix the issue. I have also tested my RAM, and no problem were detected. It is worth noting that this is my second GTX 1080, I RMA'd the first one, and when I received the second card, the same problem persisted. Also, I have tried 2 different power supplies, and the problem still persisted I have no idea what the problem could be, any help would be appreciated.

My Specs:
CPU: i7 6700k
GPU: Evga gtx 1080 superclocked
Ram: 2x8 G skill 16 gb 2400 mhz
PSU: EVGA 850w Gold
Motherboard: MSI z170a gaming pro carbon

I have some of the hwmontior pro graphs below in imgur.

https://imgur.com/a/7rpBi

 
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Yes, this could be a motherboard problem, however, unless you replace your motherboard with an exact model Microsoft will want to charge you for a new key to run Windows OS. Usually contacting them and telling them your motherboard died and had to be replaced and you could not find an exact model replacement they will let you have a free key, however, they are not required to.

What is interesting is that cleaning up Windows via the links I provided helped, that is a software issue.

There are several things that can cause your game stuttering issues, some software some hardware related. Sometimes solving a problem is difficult, at least sometimes time consuming, when I have my hands on the computer and is compounded when...
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Probably a weird question but, have you tried reinstalling windows? I had a 780 with the same issue, and that is what helped me. I had a bunch of old programs and firmware from windows 7.
 
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You have one or more programs running in the background.

1.) Check Task Manager for programs running.
2.) Do the following:

Download and install Spybot Anti-Beacon [it is free] and turn off everything except what you use, such as Bing [search engine] or Office 2015. In the Protection Tab, at the bottom of the page click Immunize. In the Optional tab click "Apply" buttons for everything you do not use.

This will auto "decrapify" Windows OS.

Every time Microsoft updates your OS check Spybot Anti-Beacon because sometimes programs are added or turned back on without Microsoft advising you.

You can also manually turn off what you do not want, however, that is a lengthy process, however, it works. Again, you will have to check to see if Microsoft turned something back on after you turned it off. As of the 2017 creators fall update Microsoft promised not to do that any longer, however, I continue to check because I do not trust them.

Do this for the Spring 2017 creators update:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--jlkMiRudw

Do this for the Fall 2107 crators update:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xrsxy-eIN7Y
 
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I downloaded Spybot and did what you said, as well as optimized Windows like in the videos. Although it did raise my fps a little, there was still stutter and slight freezing when the fps changed.
 
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Sorry I have gotten to you so late. I receive responses in one of many different locations to keep my main email folder smaller and sometimes miss these. I receive a tremendous amount of email.

You may have a problem that often occurs when system memory is set to Extreme Memory Profiles (XMP). Enter BIOS or UEFI and turn off XMP and any setting other than the lowest possible spec. Then set memory speed to 2133 and 1.3 volts. This is only temporary and I am trying to eliminate RAM as a problem. Then run some games to see if they smoothed out.

Even if games are now running properly I suggest you download and install the latest BIOS or UEFI upgrade because the latest one addresses system memory issues. Learn how to do this for your motherboard here
https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/support/Z170A-GAMING-PRO-CARBON


Without changing RAM to XMP boot into Windows and run games. If they function properly leave all of the settings alone in BIOS after the update.

Let me know if that works. I try to do all of the free things first.
 
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Unfortunately, lowering the RAM speed and upping the volts to 1.3 did not help the issue. Could this be a motherboard issue? It's the only thing I can think of at this point.
 
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Yes, this could be a motherboard problem, however, unless you replace your motherboard with an exact model Microsoft will want to charge you for a new key to run Windows OS. Usually contacting them and telling them your motherboard died and had to be replaced and you could not find an exact model replacement they will let you have a free key, however, they are not required to.

What is interesting is that cleaning up Windows via the links I provided helped, that is a software issue.

There are several things that can cause your game stuttering issues, some software some hardware related. Sometimes solving a problem is difficult, at least sometimes time consuming, when I have my hands on the computer and is compounded when troubleshooting at a distance, so please try to be patient.

As I mentioned earlier I try free things first.

1.) Download DDU - Display Driver Uninstaller, install it and put a shortcut link on your desktop. http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

Download Nvidia video card driver. [Do not use GeForce Experience]

Enter Windows Safe Mode, this is done differently depending upon what version of Windows you are using https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12376/windows-10-start-your-pc-in-safe-mode

Prepare to install video driver in Windows Safe Mode. [Do not use GeForce Experience]. Run DDU. Then install Nvidia drivers, chose Custom (Advanced), leave a check mark only on Graphics Driver, HD Audio Driver and PhysX System Software.

You can put a check mark in Perform a clean installation.

Make sure you have installed all motherboard drivers and drivers for sound, either on motherboard sound chip or an add-in card or daughter card [in a PCIe slot for example]. You should be able to install these in a regular Windows boot up. No need for safe mode for those drivers. Do not install any unnecessary software [much of it is crapware and causes problems.]

Enter Windows normally. Bring up Device Manager and make sure there are no conflicts, especially with sound. That can cause problems with game frame rates.


Run a game and look for imporvements.

2.) Go to the link I provided in my above post and see if upgrading the BIOS works. https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/support/Z170A-GAMING-PRO-CARBON

Note that there has been a serious bug in Intel CPUs for the last several generations, at least since the 3000 series, and a micro code fix will be in motherboard BIOS updates [it will be a updated CPU microcode probably followed by a suffex], RAM is not the only issue updates address, many problems are fixed. Follow instructions for BIOS updates at motherboard web sites. That bug can be exploited and cause massive problems.

Let me know if the latest BIOS update fixes your problem.

NOTE: There is a lot of information here and I hope I included all of the steps and links. I left out a lot of unnecessary complex jargon that would make this post much larger and more mental workload on you.

EDIT: I forgot to ask, what monitor and refresh rate are you using?
 
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I suspect you know the following, however I will mention it.

Check your RAM sticks and make sure they are not installed side by side, that is, make sure you have an empty slot between sticks of RAM. Most motherboards have different colored slots indicating where to install RAM. Some are subtle, black and grey some are all black. If you did what I mentioned in the above post and there is no improvement look in your motherboard manual and determine the proper slots.

If still no improvement please leave a post here. And if your problem is solved please post that as well.
 
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