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Need some help with my new build. Need CPU, Motherboard, RAM, GPU and PSU. Would love to fit an SSD in my budget, but if not I can buy one later. I have a CM HAF 912 Combat cabinet and 2 HDD’s already.

The main usage will be gaming and media.

The PC doesn’t have to be ultra capable, but it should be able of running new titles for the next 3 years or so. The main game I play is Path of Exile, which seems to need CPU performance just as much as GPU.

The choice seems to be between Intel i5 and AMD Ryzen 5. i3/Ryzen3 would probably not fulfill the CPU requirements of PoE. Considering the cost of the Z370 chipsets, Coffee Lake probably would not be a good idea. It seems to go out of budget. Will cheaper motherboards be out this month? Ideally I would prefer to buy this week, but I can wait till the end of Febuary if needed.
Also, I’ve been reading about all the issues plaguing Ryzen. Many of those threads are from when it was first launched, but how many of them still persist after all the BIOS updates and stuff I have read about? I don’t mind troubleshooting, but the thought of multiple issues causing days of anguish to fix something and trying a ton of combinations and forum advice seeking posts gives me a pseudo stomach ache while I’m typing this. RAM compatibilty seems to be an issue here, so how to find out what RAM models work well with the Ryzen motherboard selected?

I have read that Ryzen’s Wraith Spire is quite capable even for mild overclocks. But what about Intels stock heatsink? Will that do for normal use or will aftermarket cooling be necessary? I dont have an airconditioned room, though my cabinet does have good airflow with 2 intake fans, 3 outflow fans and one on the side panel that doesn’t spin with too much force. Also I live in India at a coastal location, so the local temperatures aren’t too great either.

GPU’s are also quite expensive and availability may be an issue as well(Thanks miners!) The choice is between GTX 1050Ti 4GB and GTX 1060 3GB(even this might be impossible though). Is 1060 3GB better than 1050Ti 4GB? Is the difference worth spending the extra amount? The 1050Ti is better than the RX560, but what about the RX 570/580? I don’t know what the prices are on the RX570/580 anyways, since they don’t see to be available online. I will go to local shops and get some quotes or information.

As far as PSU goes the best decent PSU’s in a good price range I have seen are Seasonic S12II520(Tier 2 on the PSU list) and Antec VP 550P v2(Tier 3 on the PSU list/which I have been told is also a good choice). I wont dare go for the stupid local shit like Enter, Circle, VIP etc. or even the non rated Corsair VS/CX series or CM Master series. One PSU failure was enough to teach me that lesson.

My budget is INR 40,000 to 50,000.

Online reference sites are:
https://www.mdcomputers.in/
https://www.primeabgb.com/
http://www.theitwares.com/
http://www.overclockerszone.com/
 
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A 1060 3GB is generally quite a bit faster than a 1050 Ti. On average, it should be close to 50% faster, though that number could be significantly higher or lower depending on the game. 30-70% higher frame rates might be a typical range. The slightly more limited memory could potentially become an issue sometime in the coming years though. The 3GB version also has 10% of its cores disabled compared to the 6GB version, so in general performance should be around 10% below that of the 1060 6GB.

The RX 580 is very similar in gaming performance to the 1060 6GB, but better at compute tasks like mining, so they tend to be priced out of the market, or not available at all right now. The same goes for the RX 570, though its performance is...

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rx 580 > 1060 6gb > rx 480 > rx 570/1060 3gb > 1050 ti > rx 560
 
A 1060 3GB is generally quite a bit faster than a 1050 Ti. On average, it should be close to 50% faster, though that number could be significantly higher or lower depending on the game. 30-70% higher frame rates might be a typical range. The slightly more limited memory could potentially become an issue sometime in the coming years though. The 3GB version also has 10% of its cores disabled compared to the 6GB version, so in general performance should be around 10% below that of the 1060 6GB.

The RX 580 is very similar in gaming performance to the 1060 6GB, but better at compute tasks like mining, so they tend to be priced out of the market, or not available at all right now. The same goes for the RX 570, though its performance is usually a little behind the 1060 3GB. Either way, it's probably not worth buying a Radeon graphics card until pricing and availability work themselves out, and that will probably takes months, by which time there will likely be new cards coming from AMD and Nvidia.

Another option would be the regular 1050 2GB. It has even less VRAM, but at least in today's games, that generally shouldn't hurt performance too much at the resolutions and settings that the 1050 and 1050 Ti can handle. Its performance tends to be around 10-15% below that of the 1050 Ti. That isn't so bad though, when you consider that the Ti version costs a lot more. I don't know how the pricing is where you are, but here in the US, a 1050 Ti currently costs around 50% more than the regular 1050, which in my opinion is not worth the price jump for 10-15% higher frame rates. The 2GB of VRAM will probably become an issue in newer games before long, but the money saved could always be used toward a better graphics card later on when prices become more reasonable.

Will cheaper motherboards be out this month? Ideally I would prefer to buy this week, but I can wait till the end of Febuary if needed.
I doubt we'll see lower-cost Coffee Lake boards this month, since I haven't heard anything about them nearing release yet. I suspect they probably won't be appearing until closer to the launch of AMD's Ryzen+ CPUs, which should be coming out some time in April.
 
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Something I forgot to mention. My monitor is a Dell S2240L, not sure if that is relevant, but should have mentioned it. Will edit OP.

The suggestion about 1050 2GB will be taken into consideration. Thanks for suggesting that. Might be a way to make the budget.

How do I compare the differences between different versions of the same card? 1050 for example has many different companies manking different models. I know that the basic card is made by Nvidia/AMD and the companies just add additional features like custom heatsinks or over/underclocks and stuff, but how do I compare the models? What are the key factors to look out for?
You don't need to type it here if it's something stupidly obvious. A link to an article or post explaining it will be okay.

 

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the monitor matters only insofar as to check resolution and refresh rate it runs at to gauge the gpu power needed to game properly with it, that dell is a 1080p 60hz monitor

so you want a 1060 6gb ideally

gpu differences between makers are mostly irrelevant

all that matters is price and if the card has a decent cooler or not, warranty should round out the top three considerations

 

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Thanks for that clarification.

I don't think that I can fit 1060 6GB in the budget, either I'll settle for 1060 3GB or go for 1050 TI.

Any advice about the rest of my concerns?
 

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I would say, go for 7th gen intel or Ryzen. Budget 8th gen motherboards are not available yet.
The Seasonic S12II520 is a great pick.
You have a case with excellent airflow. Do you plan to purchase an after market CPU cooler?
A good value SSD could be the Crucial MX500 250GB.
 

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Ryzen's Wraith Spire is apparently good as far as stock heatsinks go. If I end up with Intel I will go for an aftermarket cooler if I feel the temps are too high. Same with Ryzen if the Wraith doesn't live up to the reviews.