Need Help Picking out a good power-supply

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So here is my story. I have been using Corsair or EVGA power supplies for the last 5 years. Sadly Out of the 10 I have used 8 of them have had to have a RMA. I have personally lost faith in these to companies. Please note RMA was taken care of 100% with both companies no complaints there. On another note I have a few 10+ year old power supplies from Sea sonic and they have never had any issues.

Looking for a recommendation, Please I will not consider EVGA or Corsair at this time.
Must have 2x Eps cpu connectors.

I do not really care for overkill but I do not want to be at my limit, I assume 750 or 850 will be fine, From the wall I pull 691 Watts at full load. Around 650 gaming.

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7700k 1.35v 5Ghz
32GB ddr4 4x8@ 4000mhz
2 Gtx 1080's Heavy overclocked.
Msi Gaming M7 Z270
 
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Really bad. And that sucks. I know exactly what you mean though because I used low capacity Antec units for years with low demand systems and they were rock solid.

Five years ago I started seeing problems with multiple failures on VP-450 (Non APC models) and VP-350 units. I think I had like seven of them fail. Two of them failed twice, once initially and then the RMA units failed as well, in a relatively short time. That ended my relationship with those lower powered Antec units. Now the only Antec units I will use are the High current gamers, if they are for non-Intel builds and the price is right, which sometimes it is, because they use the Seasonic M12II platform or for the higher powered models which are Delta built and have...
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Just to point out, EVGA and Corsair do not make power supplies. It is the MODEL you buy from them, not the brand, that counts. EVGA has lower end and mid tier models made for them by lesser manufacturers, and really good models made for them by Super Flower.

Same for Corsair. Some of their models are made by Seasonic. Others by HEC and CWT. Just because it is Corsair or EVGA does not mean it is good or bad. Model is the key.

If you want Gold rated, this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.00 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $119.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-11 23:10 EST-0500


If Platinum is more your speed, this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Platinum 850W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($148.89 @ Newegg)
Total: $148.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-11 23:11 EST-0500


I would not go lower than 850w because power supply capacity degrades over time. In two years it will be unlikely to continuously supply QUITE as much as it can now. In four years, less. And so on.

Plus, you do not want a power supply that is capable of little more than what you estimate you actually need. You need to have some additional overhead, even beyond what it may degrade, to land it in the right "zone" for mostly running not at or near high loads so that it will run cooler and quieter, and more efficiently, which is at about 65-85% of rated capacity.
 
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I do understand that they don't make there own, Let me give you a list of models and issues I had resulting in replacement as there are mid-high end models.

EVGA 850 G2, Smoked.
EVGA 1000 G2, Horrid Whine
EVGA 1000 G2 Dead Fan
EVGA 1200 P2, Smoked

Corsair AX860, Smoked
Corsair TX650, Died was never told why
Corsair HX750, Turned off on over 500 watt load
Corsair hx850, Smoked.

Looks like I just smoke psu's.

 
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The TX models are good, not great. Certainly not what I'd want to use with a very top shelf card or SLI configuration. Not that you did, you probably had totally different configurations at the time.

The others, all really good units. I'd be looking at something else being the cause. Too high of overclocks. Bad power grid or bad house circuit. Bad motherboard. Using power strips, which, should not ever be used to plug in a power supply. PSU should always be directly into the wall socket, or into a compatible Pure sinewave UPS.

Or, you just have really, really bad luck.

Were those all on basically the same platform/system, or different systems with different graphics cards?

I get where you are coming from, but all of those EVGA units are highly proven, well respected, highly rated in professional reviews, Super Flower built units.

The Corsair AX860, Seasonic. The others are dependent on specific part number. Some of those models were Seasonic, some CWT, some Great wall.

It would be very, very surprising if there was not a factor involved that was not specifically the power supply. Still, you are right that Seasonic is generally the #1 go to when you want high quality and warranty.
 
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I forgot to add. Most of these psu's we not used in the same town, Not even the same state. I am a builder. Just had a bad run of luck.
 
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Really bad. And that sucks. I know exactly what you mean though because I used low capacity Antec units for years with low demand systems and they were rock solid.

Five years ago I started seeing problems with multiple failures on VP-450 (Non APC models) and VP-350 units. I think I had like seven of them fail. Two of them failed twice, once initially and then the RMA units failed as well, in a relatively short time. That ended my relationship with those lower powered Antec units. Now the only Antec units I will use are the High current gamers, if they are for non-Intel builds and the price is right, which sometimes it is, because they use the Seasonic M12II platform or for the higher powered models which are Delta built and have Haswell/newer Intel support, or the True power classic units which are all Seasonic built and are excellent for any system, but are not modular.

I had terrific luck LONG ago with Thermaltake units, but they went to total hell and will not use any of their units. They are all either crap, or the few models that aren't are twice the price of units that are better.

FSP has had some pretty damn excellent reviews on some of their newer units like the Hydro G models. I'm still kind of sketchy about using them though as I've had some poor success in the past when they were not so good. I tend to stick with what I know is good, which is usually that it is made by Seasonic, Super Flower or Flextronics, and only the models that I know they don't outsource. If you are not aware, there is a very good resource called the Orion database, and I believe it to be a lot more accurate than the RealHardTechX platform database as I've seen some discrepancies on their listings.

http://www.orionpsudb.com/


And the newest thing, which is run by Aris Mpitziopoulos who does all the PSU reviews for Tom's Hardware and TechpowerUP, is the Cybenetics database. He/they do FAR more extensive testing than what is done by the 80plus certification organization. They don't have full coverage of everything out there but what is there, is tested in EXTREME detail, with far more stringent methodology than ANYBODY in the industry can or is doing. They test things most people would never care about or understand, but for those who do, it's quickly becoming an almost essential resource if you want serious information.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/new-cybenetics-eta-230v-lambda-230v,36417.html


https://www.cybenetics.com/
 
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I never said the brands are garbage. I just have bad luck with them in builds. Who knows maybe they see my address and say piss on this guy.
 
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Here is what is crazy. I guess I am lucky because the brands/parts that people have issues with I never do.

I have MSI motherboards that are over 6 years old that still run with no DOA's or Issues, Did have a MSI AM3+ board smoke out once, RMA sent me a brand new one right away can't complain at all about MSI. But yet I see horror stories about them.

Only mobo manufacturers that I have had Slow but not bad RMA's with was Asus and Gigabyte. Dear lord Asus was slow 2 months for a replacement. Gigabyte tried to argue with me over bad pci-e slots.
 
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