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My daughter is building a gaming computer and needs advice on what power supply she will need. Thanks
Need advice on power supply
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jimthenagual
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Hello and welcome to Tom's!
In order to make a suggestion on a PSU we would need to have a list of what parts she is using so we can add up the number of Watts required to power everything up.
In order to make a suggestion on a PSU we would need to have a list of what parts she is using so we can add up the number of Watts required to power everything up.
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https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Support-Graphics-02G-P4-6152-KR/dp/B01M64G435 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B012M8M7TY/ref=psdc_229189_t1_B0136JONRM https://www.adorama.com/ctb8g4dse.html?utm_source=rflaid912925 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157738 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0159222VS/?tag=pcpapi-20 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LY4OJYJ/?tag=pcpapi-20 https://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-Internal-Optical-GH24NSC0B/dp/B00MOUBYDQ https://www.amazon.com/Desktop-Drive-5400RPM-Cache-WD60EZRZ/dp/B013HNYVCE
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147566
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147566
jimthenagual
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Have you already purchased your parts? If not, I'd recommend holding off until we get more info from you. At first glance, that is looking like a very unbalanced computer. Can you give us more info about intended use? Is it purely for gaming? What resolution monitor? What games does she play?
Here are my concerns:
1 You're building using an outdated socket type for motherboard/CPU. The ones you have chosen are still quite powerful as they are only one generation behind, but as you are building a new system, and it appears to be within your budget, you may as well get the latest generation.
2. For gaming, that GPU is under powered. For extremely low budget builds, that is one of the better cards, but you will need to turn down the ingame settings on most games to get steady FPS in most titles.
3. The HDD is massive, but only 5400 rpm. Not a huge deal as you are only using it for storage. But the standard really is 7200rpm. Like a said, this isn't a HUGE issue.
4. The SSD also is massive! Do you need one that big? I don't know your intended usage, but for example in my own system I get by with a 256Gb SSD. That would be the smallest you'd want, but maybe consider dropping down to even a 500Gb, especially considering you have a LOT of HDD space for storage.
5. That PSU is great quality, however, way more power than you need. It'll ultimately depend on what GPU you end up deciding on, but 850W is a LOT of juice! You can easily save some money here. 550W-650W range is probably what you'll end up needing.
If you can provide your budget, and answer the questions above with regards to intended usage of the system, we have a lot of people in the forum who are very good at suggesting part lists! Hope this helps.
Here are my concerns:
1 You're building using an outdated socket type for motherboard/CPU. The ones you have chosen are still quite powerful as they are only one generation behind, but as you are building a new system, and it appears to be within your budget, you may as well get the latest generation.
2. For gaming, that GPU is under powered. For extremely low budget builds, that is one of the better cards, but you will need to turn down the ingame settings on most games to get steady FPS in most titles.
3. The HDD is massive, but only 5400 rpm. Not a huge deal as you are only using it for storage. But the standard really is 7200rpm. Like a said, this isn't a HUGE issue.
4. The SSD also is massive! Do you need one that big? I don't know your intended usage, but for example in my own system I get by with a 256Gb SSD. That would be the smallest you'd want, but maybe consider dropping down to even a 500Gb, especially considering you have a LOT of HDD space for storage.
5. That PSU is great quality, however, way more power than you need. It'll ultimately depend on what GPU you end up deciding on, but 850W is a LOT of juice! You can easily save some money here. 550W-650W range is probably what you'll end up needing.
If you can provide your budget, and answer the questions above with regards to intended usage of the system, we have a lot of people in the forum who are very good at suggesting part lists! Hope this helps.
cryoburner
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While I would generally agree that a more powerful graphics card would be good for a gaming system, the current graphics card shortage has massively increased the prices of cards, and anything over a GTX 1050 is arguably overpriced. A 1050 Ti costs around 50% more than a 1050 for just 10-15% more performance. And anything higher than that is closer to double its retail price. It's not exactly a great time to be be buying mid-range to high-end graphics cards.
Then again, I agree that it would probably still be a better use of funds to go with a higher end card then putting that money into huge amounts of storage, assuming those were the correct capacities that were linked to. A 6TB hard drive seems way larger than necessary unless someone needs to store large quantities of video or something. A 2TB or 3TB hard drive would likely be more than enough, especially if there's going to be an SSD as well. And I agree that a 4TB SSD is way overkill, and that's far more than what would be needed to store games, especially since they can be easily re-downloaded when needed these days. Even a 1TB SSD would be more than what's typical in a gaming system.
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She hasn't chosen a monitor yet. She plans on using it for playing the Sims,YouTube, etc. Thank You
jimthenagual
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Cryoburner said:
"While I would generally agree that a more powerful graphics card would be good for a gaming system, the current graphics card shortage has massively increased the prices of cards, and anything over a GTX 1050 is arguably overpriced. A 1050 Ti costs around 50% more than a 1050 for just 10-15% more performance. And anything higher than that is closer to double its retail price."
Which is why I asked the magic question, what's the budget.
I agree with you that it graphics card prices are insane right now. But for example, I just spent $1300 on a 1080Ti. Doesn't matter how crazy people think I am for spending that much, it was my budget.
"While I would generally agree that a more powerful graphics card would be good for a gaming system, the current graphics card shortage has massively increased the prices of cards, and anything over a GTX 1050 is arguably overpriced. A 1050 Ti costs around 50% more than a 1050 for just 10-15% more performance. And anything higher than that is closer to double its retail price."
Which is why I asked the magic question, what's the budget.
I agree with you that it graphics card prices are insane right now. But for example, I just spent $1300 on a 1080Ti. Doesn't matter how crazy people think I am for spending that much, it was my budget.
zoltan.boese
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I agree, that OP needs advice on balancing the build within the budget. Anyhow returning to the original question, one can calculate the recommended power supply wattage if other components are known. You find such guides under these links:
https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator
http://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/
I´d also like to provide you with product reviews and a manufacturer ranking:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html
https://uk.hardware.info/reviews/6813/56-power-supplies-of-350-550-watt-review
If you want to stay safe, pick a 550W PSU, my recommendation would be the Corsair CX 550 or the Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 550W (SSR-550FX).
Feel free to ask questions!
https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator
http://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/
I´d also like to provide you with product reviews and a manufacturer ranking:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html
https://uk.hardware.info/reviews/6813/56-power-supplies-of-350-550-watt-review
If you want to stay safe, pick a 550W PSU, my recommendation would be the Corsair CX 550 or the Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 550W (SSR-550FX).
Feel free to ask questions!
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Foe an i5 & a gtx 1050 a good 450w psu is more than enough.
As already said I have ro re-iteraye that you can do far better for the money than the parts listed.
If these parts are not owned yet then you should give us a budget & country & you'll get a far better choice of components from many users here.
If they are owned then yes , they will all work fine together , the psu recommendation still stands , that cpu requires a cooler - it doesn't come with one.
As already said I have ro re-iteraye that you can do far better for the money than the parts listed.
If these parts are not owned yet then you should give us a budget & country & you'll get a far better choice of components from many users here.
If they are owned then yes , they will all work fine together , the psu recommendation still stands , that cpu requires a cooler - it doesn't come with one.
zoltan.boese
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And off topic I would recommend a slightly different build
Fractal Design Focus case
a budget wlan adapter Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I
500GB SSD
CPU cooler
Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 550W PSU
i5 processor
MSI Z370 Gaming Plus motherboard
16GB DDR4 RAM
MSI 1060 6GB
Part list without DVD drive and with black case: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nBxCmq
Fractal Design Focus case
a budget wlan adapter Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I
500GB SSD
CPU cooler
Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 550W PSU
i5 processor
MSI Z370 Gaming Plus motherboard
16GB DDR4 RAM
MSI 1060 6GB
Part list without DVD drive and with black case: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nBxCmq
jimthenagual
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Beautiful system above.
Then again, this is just for the Sims and YouTube. A 1050 could very well be the best choice. We could build a MUCH cheaper system that would meet those requirements.
Then again, this is just for the Sims and YouTube. A 1050 could very well be the best choice. We could build a MUCH cheaper system that would meet those requirements.
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Thank You for your answers! We're in the U.S. and her budget is a 1,000. This is her first time building a computer.
zoltan.boese
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Well, you can follow this guide as well: https://pcmasterracebuilds.com/the-best-1000-dollar-budget-gaming-pc-build/
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A couple of builds to think about.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($185.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370P D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($166.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Toshiba - 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($76.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB STRIX Video Card ($229.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On - iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($13.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $968.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-13 13:47 EST-0500
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($188.90 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($55.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($166.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Toshiba - 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($76.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB STRIX Video Card ($229.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On - iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($13.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $927.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-13 13:48 EST-0500
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($185.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370P D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($166.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Toshiba - 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($76.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB STRIX Video Card ($229.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On - iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($13.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $968.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-13 13:47 EST-0500
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($188.90 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($55.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($166.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Toshiba - 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($76.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB STRIX Video Card ($229.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On - iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($13.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $927.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-13 13:48 EST-0500
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She wanted to know if the suggested hard drives have enough space for all the Sims games as well as in game add ons. Thanks
jimthenagual
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madmatt30s systems above are extremely nice systems. I would ague that they are overkill for Sims and Youtube but that gives you some futureproofing as well.
And he's listed 3T hard drives. Those are MASSIVE. Again, probably overkill, but you'll never run out of space, ever, if all you are doing is Sims/YouTube. I'd even suggest dropping down to a 1T hard drive perhaps.
And he's listed 3T hard drives. Those are MASSIVE. Again, probably overkill, but you'll never run out of space, ever, if all you are doing is Sims/YouTube. I'd even suggest dropping down to a 1T hard drive perhaps.
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We have another question about the internal ssd? If she got the 525 GB or 1TB would it still be compatible with the other parts mentioned? Thanks
jimthenagual
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Just to confirm 100%, can you link the final decision you made for motherboard, as well as a link to the SSD you are considering?
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jimthenagual
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Yes, that one is fully compatible and will work. What you'll want to do is load windows on that disk and only one or two of your top played games. That will take up most of it's space. Everything else you'll want to store on the larger 3T hard drive.
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