MSI 970 GAMING 125w

Gabe666

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So, hello everyone.

I have upgraded my rig last year in January (so unfortunately right before Ryzen came out :( ) so it still is a relatively new system (e.g electron migration etc.)

MSI 970 Gaming + FX8370E
(gtx1070, 16gb ram 2x Ssd -not that this matters regarding my question)
PSU- Cougar GX 800 -it cost me 110€ http://cougargaming.com/index_ss.php?id=532 So the Mobo is getting the best juice possible.
I ran the cpu at stock 3.3ghz the first months and slowly upped the overclock : 3.5ghz---3.8Ghz-4.0ghz(like a normal fx8370)-4.3ghz- 4.5 ghz and I am now at 4.7ghz at max 1.432vcore (mostly only 1.418v-1424v under load\gaming - probably because of vdroop) but I did let Cool and Quiet and C6 State enabled in Bios because it helps with the temps very much and the loss in performance is almost nonexistent (so in idle or just browsing web it mostly goes down to 1.29v at 1.46ghz)
-The MSI 970 Mobo has a MILITARY GRADE 6+2power phase and supports 125w cpus and brags that it OFFICIALLY supports OVERCLOCKING on 125w chips (not like my previous cheap GA 78lmt usb3 mobo with 4+1 power phase that could even keep the fx 4130 -125w at stock settings without overheating).
-The fx 8370e is an max 95w TDP cpu and turbos from 3.3 to 4.3ghz AT STOCK SETTINGS. (it uses up to 1.43v to get there, I tested it on stock-but of course 4.3ghz only on half the cores tops and 1.43v only for like 0.5 seconds ). Now that I am over the 4.3ghz threshold (although still at 1.43v) it is surely not a 95w cpu anymore ..but how much then??? FX cpus can take up to 1.50v (or 1.55v) -i don't want to go there and that's like 8-10 Bios Voltage Steps higher than where i am now. So my CPU should be fine now, RIGHT?
I am cooling on air (I am afraid of a water-on-components Fail), but AMAZINGLY AIR-COOLING: first of all i cut a lot of extra holes in my case and removed all filters, so that the system is now pretty much like an open-air table rig. I also got 10 (yes, ten) POWERFUL system-fans (7 x 120mm and 3 smaller to fit right next to vrms, socket and NB) blowing and sucking air in the best configuration possible- on the VRMS, on the NB etc. CPU cooler is the infamous Evo Hyper 212(with fresh arctic mx-4) BUT MODDED-it now has a 30% bigger fin array and a second fan-so a push-pull config. SO, the hottest temps I get under max load are 50C on the Package and 48C on the Socket but that's only when stress testing for a long time. While playing bf1 on 64 server cpu is mostly at 100% but temps top at 38c on package and like 45c on socket. So the hottest thing in my pc while gaming is the OC gtx1070 by far at 59c and afaik that is also very good temp. Rest of the Temps reported by all monitoring programs I could find are like 32c-37c -Mobo including. Yeah my pc is loud as FU*K, but I really don't care, its like a Ferrari, I WANT to hear it. The System works very stable and fast (with an 30-40% increase in performance from the stock 3.3ghz)
I am planing on getting another Cpu (i think intel) and Mobo sometime this year but I definitely don't want my current build to fail even one day before that!! THAT'S WHY I ASK:
The question is: considering the rig, the temps I get, and all the specifications (FX cpus max 1.55v and i am at 1.29-1.43v, Mobo 125w+OC but my cpu 95w +OC) is it safe to keep the settings like this 24\7 (i actually use pc only like 5h\day mostly for gaming bf3, bf4, and bf1) . Will it last at least another 6 months??? Will the CPU last? Will the MOBOs VRMs Last ? If they are not hot (even to touch) it means they are not overworking? I really need some of you guys to tell me from YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE: ''i had an fx 8xxx OCed to xxxx ghz with this Mobo for 3-4 years and lasted well'' or ''it only lasted 6 months at that oc''.
MSI specifically states on this mobos page that it doesn't support even 200w CPUs (let alone 220w) An FX 9590 is a 4.7 ghz cpu (and the cores are basically the same on all fx chips) and needs 220w.
:ouch: :ouch::ouch: WATCH THIS: :ouch: :ouch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zTzpYjQ2MM (this is only a 4+1 power phase mobo not 6+2 like mine but still..)
 
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Military grade is about 90% marketing and 8+2 is generally a preferred config for overclocking.

Have you actually stress-tested the PC? If it's stable, it ought to be fine, but you don't really say much of that. I think, at least; you gotta do some editing on posts like this as this was brutal to try to read through.

You really overpaid for the PSU. Hec's implementation of higher-end platforms tends to be OK (as opposed to the generally horrid budget platforms), but for 110 euros, you could've done a lot better. A high-quality 550W or 650W would have been preferable and less expensive.

DSzymborski

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Military grade is about 90% marketing and 8+2 is generally a preferred config for overclocking.

Have you actually stress-tested the PC? If it's stable, it ought to be fine, but you don't really say much of that. I think, at least; you gotta do some editing on posts like this as this was brutal to try to read through.

You really overpaid for the PSU. Hec's implementation of higher-end platforms tends to be OK (as opposed to the generally horrid budget platforms), but for 110 euros, you could've done a lot better. A high-quality 550W or 650W would have been preferable and less expensive.
 
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Gabe666

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I'm so happy YOU replied !! You were the one who advised me to get rid of my last PSU: http://www.techsolo.net/_site/product.php?lang=en&do=show&product_id=229&class_id=37 (i did get a 60€ 400w Be quiet PSU but only kept it for 1 month because at the time I had two RX480's so 300w from GPU alone) This Cougar didnt even get warm \loud when Benchmarking with those cards so with this 1070 it almost falls asleep ;-)
About the STRESS TESTING: right off the bat: I can't use prime95 (as I have read, most fx cpus have trouble with whis app, but some do make it work). I don't get core fail, no blue screen, no restart, but it ALWAYS FREEZES my pc in 1- 2 minutes, no matter what overclock\voltage..even at 3.7ghz oc which is under the 4.3ghz turbo of stock. So what I use to stress test the cpu for hours is: the integrated stress in cpu-z, the cpu burner in furmark, geekbench(which also helps me decide if the overclock is worth it) and MaxxMEM2 cus for some strange reason it always uses the most vcore voltage of all stress apps, even if it's just testing ram speed and cpu cores are just like 25% load.Last but not least: Assasins creed Origins and BF1 multiplayer 64 server. These games are the only games that keep all cores at 100% all the time and give me the maximum socket heat (although not Package heat). I monitor with MSI afterburner AND HWinfo64.