Ryzen 2400G with M.2 and Graphics Card

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I've looked through the thread and haven't found any addressing my problem. I'm a newbie pc builder but trying to learn. System specs:

Gigabyte AB350 Gaming 3
Ryzen 2400g apu
WD Black 512 nvme in the M.2 slot
8gb corsair 3000mhz ram
RX460 video card (I want to run if possible)
Windows 10 x64
(latest drivers as of 2/19/18)

I'm having two problems:
1) I can't seem to get the 2400g apu to actually run decent graphics. I'm dedicating 2gb of system RAM(max) clocked at 3000mhz to it but still get very low gpu output. I'm not expecting RX580 / GTX 1070 levels, but at least medium level. My 8 yr old system with a HD5770 runs better than this by a long shot. Am I missing a bios setting or is it configured wrong?

2) I want to crossfire the 2400g with the RX460 if possible. If not possible then just use the RX460. (I'm waiting a couple years for GPU's to get reasonable pricing again, as we all are) However that card does not give any output at all. The mobo sees it, but when I plug into it with HDMI, no output. Again, change a bios setting for this?
 
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Use your graphics card. Unplug the display from the motherboard and plug into the graphics card. If you aren't plugged into it then you aren't using it in games. You can't use the integrated GPU in the 2400g and the graphics card at the same time for graphics processing. They do not work together as one. Buying a APU CPU like the 2400g if you have a graphics card is never recommended because you are paying for a integrated GPU you won't use. The 2400g is less powerful in games then the 460 so that is why you have less performance. The 2400g is about as powerful as a low end graphics card like the GT 1030. The RX 460 is more powerful. Expect below medium settings on most games with the 2400g integrated graphics. You can't crossfire a GPU and an integrated GPU, crossfire is for 2 identical graphics cards only.

As soon as you are hooked up to the motherboard, the graphics card output is disabled.
 
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Yeah, I figured the two could not be crossfired. Turns out I got the rx460 working. I'd like to get the 2400g working correctly as the rx 460 is damaged and needs replacement. If I could get gtx1030 level performance that would be fine, but right now I GET WELL BELOW THAT. I need to figure out the apu and bios settings to get the most gpu performance. Appreciate any ideas.
 
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I'm not sure if you've ever tried to play games on a GT 1030 but the performance is very bad unless you are playing DOTA games or CSGO. For AAA titles you can expect around or under 30FPS on medium settings. Those cards are not designed for gaming, they are for light gaming and watching 4K video on your home theatre PC. In those things, 2400G is the best. For gaming, I would expect low performance compared as in roughtly half as good as a GTX 1050. 2400G is the best iGPU but in no way is it a replacement for your graphics card.

If you are hooked up to the motherboard then the iGPU is running. It doesn't require any kind of configuration. Consider running a benchmark at http://www.userbenchmark.com/ and posting the result page here. It would tell us if your integrated graphics are working as they should.

 
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I'll post that soon. For comparison, I play Starcraft 2 a lot, and my old system (hd5770 gpu) ran at 20+fps at medium settings fine. The 2400g barely even runs it and maybe 10fps at absolute lowest settings
 
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srjjcham

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Here are the benchmark results. They don't even include a gpu score. I don't think the system recognizes it as such.

UserBenchmarks:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2400G - 80%
SSD: WD Black NVMe PCIe M.2 512GB - 124.1%
USB: WD My Passport 0820 2TB - 38.8%
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3000 C15 2x4GB - 93.6%
MBD: Gigabyte GA-AB350-Gaming 3-CF

Is the SSD in any way interfereing with the APU graphics? Shared channels?

My previous system:
ASRock M3A770DE mobo
Athlon II X4 635 CPU
4X2gb 1333mhz Ram
Radeon HD 5770
Seagate 1TB Main HDD
WD 500gb Slave Drive

I could play Crysis 1/2/3, Starcraft II and WoW (my 3 favorites over the years) at about 15-30 fps on medium settings.
 
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I'm not seeing an integrated graphics score which is key. Sometimes UBM misses the iGPU. It should have run a 3d test of some kind.. If you can't get a number for graphics then we can try another benchmark.

If you haven't already, it's essential that your chipset drivers and BIOS is up to date. Run any Windows updates that you can.

I don't think the PCIe drive would interfere with an APU because the graphics processor is directly inside the CPU package. It doesn't need PCIe bus at all to my knowledge.

The integrated graphics should be 60% faster than an old 5770 but 175% slower than an RX 470.
 
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I have updated the chipset and the BIOS to the most recent version. I think you hit it on the head that for some reason it's not detecting the GPU and using the base Microsoft integrated Graphics as the GPU. And we all know that that is insanely slow. I also figured the actual APU output would be about 2 x what the HD 5770 was. Any ideas on how to configure the BIOS to make sure the 2400 G Graphics is being used instead of the Microsoft integrated graphics? I think once that gets configured correctly and I can throttle it up some the graphics should be detected fine and I'll get very good output. I've seen plenty of videos online that show the performance is actually almost as good as an RX 460 GPU. Thanks in advance for any ideas.
 
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Maybe i missed something but you don't have Microsoft integrated graphics. You only have integrated graphics (non AMD) if you are using an Intel CPU.
If you connect to the motherboard, and you get a picture, that is using your APU.

If you are connected to the 460 and get a picture, you are connected to the GPU and using the GPU.

 
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srjjcham

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Well, then that means it is seeing the APU because the RX460 is out of the machine. The gpu scores and performance are pathetic. I just gotta keep searching for the right bios settings to enable the "real" performance of it. Thanks.
 
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And the final answer is ... the AMD display drivers were not properly updated. I downloaded them but during the original install they had an error that I didn't realize. The new amd driver install worked like a charm and everything is going well. (Talk about the stupid things). I slightly OC'd everything and got the following benchmark results.

3200mhz RAM 3.70ghz cpu 1400mhz gpu
UserBenchmarks: Game 31%, Desk 77%, Work 49%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2400G - 83%
GPU: AMD RX Vega 11 (Ryzen iGPU) - 24.4%
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3000 C15 2x4GB - 101%

The gpu score is just under the RX460 (28%) I was going to use, so pretty good for an APU. Thanks to everyone for your input and feedback.

 
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That's better. Something was going on in the iGPU department when I saw you had no 3D score in your benchmark.

Your GPU score is right on target. A bit faster than a 1030 GT. It's definitely the best APU you can get. Now you just need a graphics card.
 
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