Custom waterloop overkill i5-8600k?

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Hi, i going to build custom waterloop on i5-8600k, it is overkill?? or should i go for i7-8700k? what mobo i should use for overclock? msi z370 gaming plus or z370 tomahawk, i love building own custom waterloop.
 
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I just haven't had good luck with MSI. I find Asrock to be much more stable. That's just one person's opinion though, so take it for what it's worth. That said, for lower budgets, Asrock seems to be a favorite board on this forum among many users.

You have to keep in mind though, you get what you pay for. We are talking about lower budget motherboards, and for that reason, the VRM power phases / heatsinks are not going to be as good as a high end motherboard. In other words, don't expect a high OC with these boards. If you're happy with 4.8-5.0Ghz, then you should be OK. Of the boards you have listed, I'd probably go with the Asrock Z370 Killer sli.

As for the i7/i5 debate, it depends on who you ask. For TODAY's games, the i5 is...

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Ok tq for yr answer, but in my country Asrock Extreme 4 is more expansive then msi z370 tomahawk is about 10% more expansive. For gaming plus is 20%. So hard to choose. T.T , and is ok to choose asrock killer or asrock pro4 ? is the same price the tomahawk and gaming plus.
 

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ok,i really want/love to build custom waterloop. In my country , MSI and Asrock are about the same price and cheaper compare to other brand mobo. I want overclock to 4.7/8 ghz.
which mobo you are using or recommend for overclock?
 
My personal preference is Asus, Asrock, Gigabyte, in that order. It doesn't sound like you are looking for an overly aggressive overclock. Mine is at 4.8Ghz now. Nothing insane, but a definite boost. But custom loops are just sexy as hell. You can see my build log HERE if you are interested.

What models of Asrock vs. MSI are you looking at?

Also, give me some details of your planned loop! Hard or soft tubing? How many and what size radiators are you looking at? Etc.
 

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Yes, waterloop look sexy so i just want to try build my 1st waterloop, Yr build so beautiful. I also going for hard tubing and for the radiators size are same as yours, 360 + 240. I aiming asrock z370 pro4 vs msi z370 gaming plus or asrock z3270 killer sli vs msi z370 sli plus, Asrock mobo have more power delivery then msi right? For i7 really doesn't help much in gaming?
 
I just haven't had good luck with MSI. I find Asrock to be much more stable. That's just one person's opinion though, so take it for what it's worth. That said, for lower budgets, Asrock seems to be a favorite board on this forum among many users.

You have to keep in mind though, you get what you pay for. We are talking about lower budget motherboards, and for that reason, the VRM power phases / heatsinks are not going to be as good as a high end motherboard. In other words, don't expect a high OC with these boards. If you're happy with 4.8-5.0Ghz, then you should be OK. Of the boards you have listed, I'd probably go with the Asrock Z370 Killer sli.

As for the i7/i5 debate, it depends on who you ask. For TODAY's games, the i5 is every bit as good as the i7, as hyperthreading doesn't get used. But for tomorrow's games.... who knows? I personally went with the i5 in my build.
 
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Depends on the games. Since the explosion of BF1, more games are making the switch to multiple threads, using upto @8 generally. The older i7's already having 8threads capability are still definitely holding their own, but the older i5's are having a hard time in gta5, sw Battlefront, Witcher 3, pubg, BF1, BF4 etc. CoffeeLake i5's using 6 full cores are working approximately the same as the older hyperthreaded i7's, yet with better IPC, so are currently the king of budget cpus. Obviously the i7-8700k and it's 12 possible threads is killing everything.

There's 2 major areas in pc builds. Performance and aesthetics. Everybody builds a pc according to one or the other, or a mix of both. Some insist on pure fps performance, and will sacrifice a good looking expensive case for a cheapo one, just to get the next model up gpu. Some don't care about fps, as long as the pc looks sexy on their desk. Most will at least try and color coordinate ram, mobo etc. Full custom loops just happen to be the pinnacle of both, the absolute best (if it's at least built right) cooling capability + the sexiest looking builds there is. If you have the wallet for it. There's really no budget solution for full custom loops.

You cannot ever overcool a cpu. Undercool is absolutely possible, the forums are full of high temp complainers. Overcooling just means that no matter what punishment you subject the cpu too, be it stress/torture testing or rendering or any of many other 100% loading programs, you'll never need worry about cpu temp thermal shutdowns. Bonus is slower/quieter fans.

So being as there's not really any such thing as overkill cooling a cpu, a full custom loop on an i5-8600k will remain just 1 thing (again, if done right). Sexy.
 

baiyunfei

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Ok tq vm for yr answer, i think i go for Asrock.
 

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Ok, currently using i5-4440 playing pubg already at 80-90% usage with all background closed. So is time to upgrade my CPU. Anyway tq for yr recommendation.