Ryzen 3 1200 (OC) or i5 7500?

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So my current cpu is a Pentium G4400 and I'm looking to upgrade just can't decide what to. If I buy the i5 I wouldn't have to get a motherboard, but if I buy the Ryzen 3 1200 and a motherboard it would still be the same price as the i5 (in Canada).
 
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That is just my opinion.

Here's the deal. The i5 will be a little faster for games today vs the Ryzen 3. No question of that. Here's a comparison

Ryzen 2200g vs i5 7500

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhffayvY7oo

However here's another of that Ryzen 3 vs a Pentium G4560, so the pentium may be slightly faster than yours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1T4TAaLxqQ

So the first one is the i5 vs the 2200g which is newer and probably cheaper than the 1200. That gives you an idea that yes the i5 is a bit faster. Overclocking the Ryzen will help to even that gap a little. Plus if you are playing at 1600x900 on a 60hz screen, you aren't really seeing over 60 fps anyway.

The 2nd video gives a baseline of where you are today...
Isn't the Ryzen 2200G less expensive than the 1200? If you go Ryzen, I'd grab that one rather than the 1200. For me the big question is what would be the point of switching to AMD now? What do you think you'll get out of it? The other question is what videocard will you pair with these? Depending on the card and resolution, it might not really matter which you choose since the card may limit both of them.
 
This would be a double edge sword. If the 1200/2200g are the same price as the i5 I would go with Ryzen. Here's why.

Kaby lake is now unfortunately a bit a dead platform. If you dump money into Kaby, you have no upgrade path after this really. At least with Ryzen, the socket should be supported until 2020. That said, if he goes Ryzen, he gets the quad core, then if he wants say a Ryzen 3 later on, he should be able to get say a Ryzen 3700x or whatever cpu they have then and theoretically drop tht into his board with a bios update. Whereas he said intel he will spend as much on the i5 alone as a board and cpu.

It's not my money, but that is what I'm thinking is if you are upgrading a little at a time, get the system that say a year or 2 down the road has the capability to accept that. I would suggest however to buy a good B350 motherboard, or if you have the extra cash, maybe even go for a well rated X370 or newer board so that hopefully it will have the best compatibility for the upgrades.
 
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Im going to pair it with a gtx 1050 at 1600x900
 
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so you're saying i should go with Ryzen instead of intel because of a better upgrade path?
 
That is just my opinion.

Here's the deal. The i5 will be a little faster for games today vs the Ryzen 3. No question of that. Here's a comparison

Ryzen 2200g vs i5 7500

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhffayvY7oo

However here's another of that Ryzen 3 vs a Pentium G4560, so the pentium may be slightly faster than yours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1T4TAaLxqQ

So the first one is the i5 vs the 2200g which is newer and probably cheaper than the 1200. That gives you an idea that yes the i5 is a bit faster. Overclocking the Ryzen will help to even that gap a little. Plus if you are playing at 1600x900 on a 60hz screen, you aren't really seeing over 60 fps anyway.

The 2nd video gives a baseline of where you are today vs the Ryzen cpu.

Basically, you can go and get the i5, no question, good upgrade for you, you'll run games better etc. If you ever want to upgrade beyond a 7700k however, you are looking at buying a new cpu, and new motherboard at least, as Coffee Lake doesn't support the kaby lake boards. So that can get pricey.

With the Ryzen setup, you are sacrificing a little performance right now, but it will likely do what you are wanting to do, and you said you would stay at the same price as the i5 you looked at. So with the Ryzen, it's sacrifice a little performance now, but later, then say Ryzen 2 or Ryzen 3 come out, since they are supposed to support socket AM4 until 2020, if all goes as they are saying, you should be able to upgrade from your Ryzen 3 to for example a Ryzen 7 with 8 cores 16 threads or whatever they have at the time that your motherboard will accept. Also, with Ryzen, keep in mind, AMD didn't have the greatest performance before. But Ryzen was about a 50% jump in performance vs their older chips. Being that we are still on the 1st generation Ryzen, I am assuming that they will refine the chips to get better single core perfomance and also have higher clock speeds at stock which will help.

So in a couple of years, when you upgrade to say a Ryzen 3rd generation 6 or 8 core etc, then you get a little bit of extra life out of your system, whereas the i5 is essentially the same performance as the new i3 chips.

In my mind, it's like this

More performance now=i5
Upgrade path for later with enough power for right now=amd

Again, maybe I'm wrong, but that's just how I see it. If you were going to sink money into the current platform you have, I would almost consider saving up and getting an i7 7700 or 7700k and be happy for a few years instead of getting the i5. But there again, more money. At that point however, you'd be better off upgrading your graphics card and monitor anyway once the prices go back to a sane level.
 
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With a 1050 at 900p, performance will be close enough that you should feel free to choose whatever is best for you.

Personally, if it were me I'd be looking at a monitor/videocard upgrade after this CPU upgrade. Therefore, I would not care how long AMD supports Ryzen since I'll be spending future money on a new monitor and videocard. So, for me, the jump to the i5 makes the most sense. You won't even have to reinstall Windows.
 
Right. If costs are the same, either way you go you will have a nice boost. But I concur, after you get the cpu, then next thing I would go for is new monitor/graphics card which would then about max out the i5 probably. Then from that point you can save up and start thinking new platform. Whichever order you want. Either way though, Ryzen or i5, you'll see a performance bump.
 
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okay thank you i'm set on getting the i5 and will probably save for a new graphics card or monitor. :)
 
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thank you, im set on getting the i5 now and will save up for a new monitor or graphics card :)
 
If you have the 1050, I think I'd get CPU first, then monitor, after that save for a nice video card something at least like in the range of the GTX 1060 6gb, or whatever they have that replaces it in a year or so. After that, you will be about maxed on the current board probably, and that will give ryzen and upcoming Intel products time to shake out a little, so you'll at that time be able to start preparing for a new board/CPU upgrade.