Ryzen 5 2400G vs geforce gt 730

KnHwrtn · Mar 8, 2018

I currently have a i7 860 with a Nvidia GeForce GT 730
and thinking of building a Ryzen 5 2400G using the on board graphics

I can't find any comparisons between the two concerning video performance

Any thoughts

Phaaze88 · Mar 8, 2018

Well, the 2400g only just came out, and the GT 730 is quite old, so I doubt anyone would have a video comparing the apu against such an old card right away... comparisons with newer cards are most likely all you'll find at the moment.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html
The 2400g integrated graphics are on par with the GT 1030 and RX 550, which are 3 tiers higher than your current card on that list.

IInuyasha74 · Mar 9, 2018

It would be a significant upgrade from what you currently have. Like Phaaze88 pointed out, the integrated graphics in the 2400G competes with Nvidia's GT 1030, which is considerably faster than the GT 730. The CPU would also be a major step up from the i7 860.

dontlistentome · Mar 9, 2018

Two things to consider. One, you want fast DDR4 in dual channel in order to take advantage of the integrated graphics, as in DDR4 2933 or 3200. Next, you're going to be using 2gb system ram for the graphics, which means you'll have 2gb less for system/game use. If you buy 8gb DDR4, you'll actually have 6gb usable. Depending on the games you intend to play, 6gb may not be enough. Which means buying 16gb DDR4 2x8gb since dual channel mode is mandatory.

KnHwrtn · Mar 10, 2018

From reading the review on some of the motherboard the Ryzen 5 2400G has problems with bios settings and updating the bios

cryoburner · Mar 10, 2018

KnHwrtn :

The only real "problem" it has is that it's a new generation of Ryzen processors that was just released within the last month, so most of the existing motherboards on store shelves don't have a compatible BIOS installed for it yet. And as is typical, those existing motherboards with older BIOS versions will require a compatible CPU to be installed to perform the update before the new CPU will work. In some cases, a computer store where its bought from might perform the update, otherwise AMD can loan you a compatible low-end CPU to perform the upgrade with. I agree that it could be a bit troublesome though, for the time being. Eventually, newer stock of the motherboards should have a compatible BIOS already installed, and there should also be 400-series AM4 motherboards that will have guaranteed out-of-box compatibility with these newer processors before long.

maxalge · Mar 10, 2018

KnHwrtn :

get a gtx 1050 ti for your i7 860

dont waste money on the 2400g, it would be a downgrade from the above. The built in is comparable to a gt 1030 - garbage

then you can easily save money for a complete platform upgrade down the road

cryoburner · Mar 10, 2018

maxalge :

I wouldn't say that GT 1030 level hardware is necessarily "garbage", as it largely depends on one's needs. A Ryzen 2400G's CPU performance should be somewhere around 50% faster than an i7 860, and its GPU performance should be around two to three times the performance of a GT 730 when paired with a dual-channel kit of relatively fast RAM.

However, I do agree that for gaming, putting the money into just a video card upgrade for the time being might potentially be a better use of funds. The i7 860 should have roughly comparable gaming performance to AMD's older FX processors, which are not exactly great for running today's most demanding games, but are still arguably capable, so long as one doesn't demand a steady 60fps in all titles. A 2400G offers a decent amount more performance on the CPU side of things, but its integrated graphics (or the GT 1030 for that matter) aren't exactly great for resolutions around 1080p or higher in most recent games, and a GTX 1050 / 1050 Ti level card would likely be nearly twice as fast when performance isn't CPU-bound.

Either way, performance will be limited by one component or the other though. In the case of the 2400G system, performance will be more limited by the integrated GPU, while in the case of the GTX 1050 upgrade, performance will be limited more by the older CPU. The GTX 1050 is going to cost a lot less than upgrading all those other components though. Personally, I feel the regular 1050 is currently a better value than the 1050 Ti, due to the shortage-induced high pricing of video cards going on right now. The 1050 Ti might be a bit faster and has more VRAM, but in most cases its performance is only around 15% faster than the regular 1050 in today's games, while its price is around 50% higher, which currently amounts to around a $75 difference. A few months ago, you could have gotten a GTX 1060 6GB for a little more than what a 1050 Ti is currently selling for, or a GTX 1060 3GB for less.

maxalge · Mar 10, 2018

cryoburner :

maxalge :

I wouldn't say that GT 1030 level hardware is necessarily "garbage", as it largely depends on one's needs. A Ryzen 2400G's CPU performance should be somewhere around 50% faster than an i7 860, and its GPU performance should be around two to three times the performance of a GT 730 when paired with a dual-channel kit of relatively fast RAM.

However, I do agree that for gaming, putting the money into just a video card upgrade for the time being might potentially be a better use of funds. The i7 860 should have roughly comparable gaming performance to AMD's older FX processors, which are not exactly great for running today's most demanding games, but are still arguably capable, so long as one doesn't demand a steady 60fps in all titles. A 2400G offers a decent amount more performance on the CPU side of things, but its integrated graphics (or the GT 1030 for that matter) aren't exactly great for resolutions around 1080p or higher in most recent games, and a GTX 1050 / 1050 Ti level card would likely be nearly twice as fast when performance isn't CPU-bound.

Either way, performance will be limited by one component or the other though. In the case of the 2400G system, performance will be more limited by the integrated GPU, while in the case of the GTX 1050 upgrade, performance will be limited more by the older CPU. The GTX 1050 is going to cost a lot less than upgrading all those other components though. Personally, I feel the regular 1050 is currently a better value than the 1050 Ti, due to the shortage-induced high pricing of video cards going on right now. The 1050 Ti might be a bit faster and has more VRAM, but in most cases its performance is only around 15% faster than the regular 1050 in today's games, while its price is around 50% higher, which currently amounts to around a $75 difference. A few months ago, you could have gotten a GTX 1060 6GB for a little more than what a 1050 Ti is currently selling for, or a GTX 1060 3GB for less.

there really is not any gaming situation where the 2400g would be a better option than a i7 860 + 1050 ti

especially with a mild OC

cryoburner · Mar 11, 2018

maxalge :

In certain games that are heavily dependent on CPU performance, I suspect the 2400G could win out in some scenarios at 720p resolution, or at least maintain higher minimum frame rates. The OP was a bit light on details about the rest of their system, or what they expected out of it, or if they even wanted it for gaming.

In general, I agree that a 1050 / 1050 Ti with the existing i7 860 would offer better overall gaming performance though, especially at resolutions like 1080p.

KnHwrtn · Mar 11, 2018

Thanks for all the feedback, the main use will be video streaming, Netflix, amazon, on demand from cable provider

It is an older setup and I will not be playing any games other than flash ,in browser games.

The main issue is while watching a movie split screen while playing a in browser game, box head etc the browser game lags or freezes at times momentarily

So invest in an old dead end system vs basic new system with fast memory
I am planning on just switching out the motherboard, memory and cpu and keep the rest of the micro atx case and components

Other thoughts would be move from windows 10 to one of the Linux distros hoping for a improvement in performance

madmatt30 · Mar 11, 2018

The issue is that while that i7 can still be a fairly potent performer the platorm itself is ancient.

There are more benefits regarding moving to a newer system than just cpu performance here.
Sata 3,usb 3/3.1, uefi bios, proper fast boot capability.

A 1050ti stands a good chance of not even working on a motherboard that old.

IInuyasha74 · Mar 11, 2018

KnHwrtn :

If all you play is some browser games and multi-task, the Ryzen 5 2400G is really a perfect solution for you. Depending on what web game you are playing, your issue may even be more linked to CPU performance than the GPU. I'd just go for that and get a decent RAM kit. You are just playing browser games, but get something rated 2400MHz or above. That should be sufficient and work for your needs for years.

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6ZWhMZ
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CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($168.75 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - A320M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($64.52 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($167.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $401.26
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