I7-8700k cooling is this going to be enough?

Pwnzy · Mar 12, 2018

So I recently purchased a pc that was on sale the components are i7-8700k 1070 asus strix asus prime z370-p 16gb ddr4 600 watt 80 plus my main concern is if the asetek 550lc 120mm water cooler is enough for my CPU if not which cooler should I use and any other flaws you see in the build please point them out.

jacobweaver800 · Mar 12, 2018

Pwnzy :

Seems like a nice looking build, also that AIO should be enough but don't expect to do any heavy overclocking with it. If you are trying to do heavy overclocking then this should do.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835146060&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Liquid+%2F+Water+Cooling-_-N82E16835146060&gclid=CjwKCAjwypjVBRANEiwAJAxlItMHpDD7GvZHKsqaNpgU6A_cenzEViyGfG2PBNzNWSZITqQBk3xkzBoCRE8QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Pwnzy · Mar 12, 2018

jacobweaver800 :

Thanks for the feedback, also I'm new to water cooling is there any maintenance that i would have to do with the cooler i have or the one you suggested that i will most likely get.

jacobweaver800 · Mar 12, 2018

Pwnzy :

jacobweaver800 :

Thanks for the feedback, also I'm new to water cooling is there any maintenance that i would have to do with the cooler i have or the one you suggested that i will most likely get.

AIO's require no maintenance except keeping the radiator free of dust and the fans working properly. If your new to watercooling it may be better for you to go to air cooling, try something like a Hyper 212 EVO or a BeQuiet tower cooler, anything that looks super beefy that supports socket LGA 1151 should do.

Rogue Leader · Mar 12, 2018

jacobweaver800 :

You do realize that the cooler that he has and the one you suggested are literally the exact same unit. Asetek and Cooler Master manufacture about 85% of all AIO coolers you can buy.

jacobweaver800 · Mar 12, 2018

Rogue Leader :

jacobweaver800 :

You do realize that the cooler that he has and the one you suggested are literally the exact same unit. Asetek and Cooler Master manufacture about 85% of all AIO coolers you can buy.

Um, no there not. The one I suggested is a double rad not a single like the one he already has. Big difference bud.

Rogue Leader · Mar 12, 2018

jacobweaver800 :

Rogue Leader :

Um, no there not. The one I suggested is a double rad not a single like the one he already has. Big difference bud.

You are right for some reason I thought he wrote 240. It is still made by Asetek, but double the size.

jacobweaver800 · Mar 13, 2018

Rogue Leader :

jacobweaver800 :

You are right for some reason I thought he wrote 240. It is still made by Asetek, but double the size.

I know there made by the same company, the one I picked out has a higher cooling capacity since its a dual rad, which should be plenty for overclocking an 8700k, though a single rad wont be enough for a big overclock, something the 8700k can easily handle, you can hit 5ghz on that thing with a big custom watercooling loop.

Rogue Leader · Mar 13, 2018

jacobweaver800 :

Rogue Leader :

I know there made by the same company, the one I picked out has a higher cooling capacity since its a dual rad, which should be plenty for overclocking an 8700k, though a single rad wont be enough for a big overclock, something the 8700k can easily handle, you can hit 5ghz on that thing with a big custom watercooling loop.

The reality is unless space or packaging is an issue a 120mm rad is a waste of money, it won't perform any better than a really good air cooler. A 240 as you suggested can get 5ghz from an 8700k, we have users here who have done it, no need for a big custom loop.

jacobweaver800 · Mar 13, 2018

Rogue Leader :

jacobweaver800 :

The reality is unless space or packaging is an issue a 120mm rad is a waste of money, it won't perform any better than a really good air cooler. A 240 as you suggested can get 5ghz from an 8700k, we have users here who have done it, no need for a big custom loop.

Well, I know you don't need a custom loop for 5ghz, just that's what I saw it done with. You can probably hit 5ghz on a pretty thicc dual rad, although for that big of an overclock I recommend a tripple rad since it will run pretty hot on a dual, but it is possible.

Rogue Leader · Mar 13, 2018

jacobweaver800 :

There is no "pretty thicc" dual rad. Any of the Asetek or Coolermaster produced AIOs can cool an 8700k for 5ghz, including the one you suggested, and are all the same thickness, they don't make dual row AIO radiators like they do for cars. Heck there are people who have used monster air coolers from Noctua and Cryorig to do it like the Noctua NH-D15. You don't need a 360 radiator to do it, a 240 with the right ambient temp, or 280 if you want a little more room is more than fine. Of course this is assuming you don't keep your room the temperature of a sweatbox.

"Pretty hot" any overclocking is going to run hot. 85c at 5ghz which is pretty normal will still last "forever".

jacobweaver800 · Mar 13, 2018

Rogue Leader :

You can get rads thiccer than this AIO, and they are far more effective. Also i'm not saying you can't do 5ghz on a dual rad, I just wouldn't recommend it unless your A/C is constantly turned on or you live someplace really cold. Let me make this clear, 5ghz is definitely possible, under the right conditions. You'll need to keep your room fairly cool and make sure your AIO has good airflow and is free of dust, even then the temps may be a bit high to most standards, And lets be honest here anyone bying an 8700k and trying to hit 5ghz is going to get a really good board, like a good quality Z370, and spend good money for it so upping to a tripple rad to keep it at nice 60-70C under load isn't going to make too much of a difference. Also I doubt the OP is going to be pushing for 5ghz anyways. Most people don't and stick around 4.8 or so.

Rogue Leader · Mar 13, 2018

jacobweaver800 :

5ghz is not a magical overclock, you can do 5 minutes of googling or look through this forum, we have plenty of users who have done it. You don't need your A/C on all the time, as long as the room isn't "hot" you are fine. Normal room temperature is more than fine. And what "standards" are you talking about. Made up numbers people are comfortable with, that have no basis in reality? The truth is, overclocking your cpu and running it around 85c is not going to do any damage to it. To damage a CPU you need to be bouncing off the throttle limiter due to temp (100c).

And theres literally two SLIGHTLY thicker AIO 240mm radiators on the market, the Corsair H105 and the NZXT Kraken x62, both are still single row, and just feature slightly deeper fins, the difference in performance between these and any other radiator is negligible. Oh wait I forgot the SIlverstone Tundra which is significantly thicker, and actually performs worse than the Corsair H105, or even the H100 which is only 27mm thick.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/7738/closed-loop-aio-liquid-coolers

Sure a 360mm cooler is great, but not a lot of cases have that space, and you don't need it to do 5ghz. Your anecdotal information doesn't trump actual tests and experience of our userbase, and prettymuch everyone else for that matter.

jacobweaver800 · Mar 13, 2018

Rogue Leader :

How about you reread what I said earlier, you don't need a tripple for 5ghz, I KNOW THAT. I said that most people would be uncomfortable running a CPU at 85C, I know I would be. Even though its where it should be it can easily be lower, and I bet if you had 2 identical chips in identical systems with one running a tripple and one running a double the chip under the tripple would last a longer life span since it constantly stays at a lower temp. Also, where I live that CPU would throttle like crazy under a dual rad and would pretty much require a tripple. Also that Tundra, if i recall, had a pretty terrible pump, A custom look with a thicker than normal rad and a D5 pump would rekt that thing and any dual rad AIO. If a radiator is large but doesn't have a lot of flow it will suffer, same thing the other way around a lot of flow in a very small rad won't work either. You need a mix of the two, normally a dual rad and a good pump will be fine, but from the testing I have seen that chip can run at over 85C at room temp at 5ghz with a good rad and good pump.

Rogue Leader · Mar 13, 2018

jacobweaver800 :

I know you said what YOU WOULD DO. But what YOU WOULD DO and what works are two different things. And you have 0 proof that a CPU would "last longer" not at 85c. 0. You know the failure rate of Intel CPUs? Its somewhere around 0.5%, the CPU will be obsolete before its anywhere near failure. And what people assume as CPU failure is often motherboard failure, because the VRMs wear out, or other cheap or not cooled chips die.

And we are talking about AIOs here, not using a custom CLC, of course a custom would be better, it has a better pump, better fluid, and whatever radiator you want. Of course having a better pump is better, as is clear in the test I linked, the H100 beats up on a lot of thicker and larger radiators, because its better overall.

You make a lot of assumptions, like above about people always buying the best motherboard to overclock. Spend some time here you will find that doesn't happen either. They SHOULD BE doing that, but they do not. As an aside, whats commonly accepted as "room temperature" doesn't change with location. If you live in a place that needs A/C to maintain such a temp, doesn't mean that all your advice should be based around being in a hot location.

madmatt30 · Mar 13, 2018

Barely any difference in temps between a 240 & 360 rad with a 8700k unless it's been delidded.

The thermal dissipation issue at higher speeds thanks to Intel's fairly rank quality tim between die & heat spreader puts paid to that.

jacobweaver800 · Mar 13, 2018

madmatt30 :

I would delid though. Debrouwer makes a deliding tool that is safe to use to delid CPU's for only about 30 dollars.

I7-8700k cooling is this going to be enough?

Reputable

Respectable

Reputable

Respectable

It's a trap!

Respectable

It's a trap!

Respectable

It's a trap!

Respectable

It's a trap!

Respectable

It's a trap!

Respectable

It's a trap!

Titan

Respectable

Share this page