Issues with port forwarding

QwerkyPengwen

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So I'm not new to port forwarding so before any of you ask me if I've done the following things I will list them.

I have forwarded ports for both TCP and UDP on port forwarding section in my router as well as in the port triggering section. I have also allowed these ports in my Windows Firewall settings.
My PC is connected to my router using a static IP address (as is the way with nearly every device I own unless it doesn't let me do so)

The problem is that even after testing nearly all of my ports they appear to be closed and of course the ones that I have added to my rules won't ping.

My ISP doesn't block PF and gives it's users full control over this by using the settings in the router.

After having taken a look around I have seen that some people have an issue if the public IP differs from the one on WAN. I have yet to plug a laptop into the modem directly to find out but I'm pretty sure it's the same since I looked at it once before and I'm pretty sure the numbers were the same.

I have also seen that people connecting through multiple routers can have an issue. The only thing extra I have as a connection medium is an ethernet switch hub for connecting multiple ethernet devices to a single 50ft cable that runs from one room in my place to where the router is located. Would being connected through a switch cause this to happen? (I doubt this myself since as far as I'm aware the switch doesn't have the ability to assign IP addresses like the router and is just basically a multitap of sorts)

I would like to be able to properly forward ports for my PS4 but mostly I would like to get this working so that my friends can join my Minecraft server that I host on my own PC.

So any troubleshooting help is appreciated to help me figure this out, thanks.

**NOTE**
I won't be home Tuesday the 13th and most all of Wednesday the 14th. So I won't be able to try out any suggestions you may offer. I can however respond to any questions or suggestions in regards to what I may already know and have tried.

P.S. - Oh, and I've even tried to DMZ my PC and still no luck.
 
Have you taken into account that even if you port forward, it will show as closed if you have nothing running on said port.
Since if nothing replies, port is assumed to be closed
So.. when testing if port forwarding works for your minecraft server, have said server running.

Reason multiple routers can cause issues is that most routers have NAT on by default and as such, each has their own subnet. This same theory applies to public/WAN IP being different.

Also having both port forwarding and triggering on at same time could cause problems. Both things do kind of same thing but one is static and one is more dynamic.

For triggering, idea is that router sees stuff coming from IP-A port 4567 and thus forwards outside port 4567 to IP-A for duration of X
If you also have port 4567 forwarded to IP-B... well, I can't say which rule will work, Router wont do both.
 

BuddhaSkoota

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Firstly, is your modem a modem-only, or is it a modem/router combo? Some people are confused by this, so just want to make sure it's as you stated: a separate modem-only and router.

Also, you need to check the public IP address on the WAN side of the router, not the modem. A dynamically assigned public address from your ISP will change, so you really need to verify that it's correct on the router (the device performing forwarding). If Minecraft allows you to use a URL instead of an IP address, then you should consider using a DDNS service so that you can avoid problems with a changing IP address in the future.
 

QwerkyPengwen

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To address some things further:
I initially didn't have port triggering enabled but was simply saying that I've tried it to no avail.

I am aware that I need to be running the server to properly ping the port and I've done this to no avail.

I have fios service with Frontier (formerly Verizon here in California) and my modem is part of an ONT and my router is connected to modem with an Ethernet cable in order to get my 150meg speeds.

I am not confused by things typically in regards to technology. I have been self taught in computers and technology for over 15 years and am no stranger to it. This is the first time I've ever had an issue with my ports and have exhausted the usual avenues and that is why I'm here to get a different perspective. So feel free to ask further questions in full force tech talk mode since I won't have any issues understanding you.

**update**
I connected my laptop to the ethernet cable that goes directly to the ONT and sure enough, the public IP is different.
 

QwerkyPengwen

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update #2

I've tried pinging both different public IP address and no luck. I have a static NAT section in my router settings. I've never used this before so I am not sure what I should be using as the public IP address for it whether it should be one of the two I currently have or something custom.
 

BuddhaSkoota

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If you can't ping your public IP address, that would be a significant problem since it indicates that your address is not even reachable from the Internet. You would have to bring this issue up with your ISP.

Also, if the WAN side of your router is assigned a private IP, that usually indicates double NAT. It would be helpful to know the make and model of your modem and router if you need help with specific settings
 

QwerkyPengwen

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I will contact them and ask them what's up with the IP addresses

The router says designed by Greenwave Systems and the model number FiOS -G1100