Possible bottleneck limited??

ojv.g

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Hi there

Recently bought a
gtx 1050 2gb oc
asus prime b250m-a
i3-7100
2x 4gb ddr4 2400mhz ram

For overwatch i limit my fps to 120 fps for a more stable fps. I play on low settings and 75% render scale, but my fps drops to low 100 sometimes in heavy combat. If i unlock limit fps my fps sky rockets to 200+ when walking around or being idle ingame. This means that my gpu can push high fps. If i use higher graphics like, 100% render scale and higher video settings ofcourse my maximum possible frames will drop but ill keep the same fps as when using low settings. It still drops to low 100 in heavy combat sometimes. My temperatures are fine aswell as my usage. Cpu is around 70-80% in heavy combat 90+%. Same for my gpu. I whant higher ''stable'' fps but im not getting it. Does this mean that im cpu limited, because my gpu is able to achieve 200+ fps it will just not stay there when going into heavy combat. Weird thing is, my cpu usage is not always 100% when my fps drops to 100-110. Could this still limit my stable fps in heavy combat even though cpu is not always 100%.

in this video you can see the gtx 1050ti wich is not that more powerfull than the normal gtx 1050 and you can see that his fps is insanely high always. Ofcourse having a monster cpu. I just whanna be sure before upgrading anything. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsDGlSnsfdM


Thank you
 
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alas, a dual core i3 is not known for being the 'end all' of CPU gaming utopia....

Sell it off, slap in a 7700K :) (And please don't let anyone tell you the 7700 runs the same speed as a 7700K, so you should 'just get the former'...it does not, and you should not.)

Yes, you will be bottlenecked by the GTX1050, but, right now the i3 is capping you here and there....
 

theo.esk

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You say that your cpu is 7-80 % in normal play without combat and 90+% in combat, that only means that your cpu is maxed out, and yes that means you are cpu limited.
and this is where i say that if you are playing with a high resolution you cannot expect your system to follow if your hardware is inadequate, which it definitely is.
your cpu is a 3.9 ghz dual core with 2 virtual cores, and you have only 8gig of ram.
in this case it really doesn't matter if your graphic card is less than 1050 or bigger.
It all comes down to processing power.
the smaller cpu (number of cores and Ghz) you have the lesser games you can play, the bigger cpu (number of cores and Ghz) you have the bigger games you can play.
Now for you to get an better understanding of what im saying is to take a look at this benchmark comparison site.
i've taken yours at the left side which is an I3-7100 Kaby lake (not clockable) dual core (2 physical and 2 virtual) against right side an I5-8400 Coffee Lake 6-core 2.80ghz (unlocks up to 3.8ghz overclock).
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i3-7100-vs-Intel-Core-i5-8400/3891vs3939
The benchmark site tells us that your cpu is not adequate or designed to games in fact it's designed for multimedia and low resolution games.
My answer to your question(s) is yes you have a very thin bottle neck which only allows so much and not enough data to pass through to your graphics card.
I'd recomend you upgrade to that cpu i've compared your cpu with. I5-8400 Coffee Lake 6-Ghz. and after that upgrade i guarantee that you'll not experience bottle neck issues again in that game.

I hope this explanation and answer was adequate and usefull.
 
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ojv.g

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We need more people like you! Great explanation. I appriciate it, and for only 170euros that cpu looks really good. Ive got one more question though. It doesn't really matter if i crank up the video settings, since the fps will stay the exact same right?

note: this cpu will fit my current system aswell?

 

ojv.g

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damm to bad. Is there any other option i can go for thats about the same as a i5-8400 but does work with setup?
 

theo.esk

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woah... didn't research that bit, my bad. just thought that since they have the same socket i should be a perfect match, but it's because of the new Architecture that comes with the 8'th gen intel cpu's.
Tho it's kinda mind boggling as to why intel made the 8'th gen cpu on to the same socket 1151 as kaby lake 7'th gen cpu's uses.
 

ojv.g

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hahaha all good, dont worry about it. Do you maybe have any other suggestions for cpu thats runs above 150 fps in every scenario. Ofcourse for a decent price :D
 

theo.esk

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yes there definitely is.
The I5-7600K 3.80Ghz (4.20Ghz boost) is also a very good choice.
The I7-7700K 4.20Ghz (4.50Ghz Boost) is little bit better than the I5, but not much.
For comparison between the to i5 vs the i7:
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7600K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7700K/3885vs3647
For comparison of your current cpu:
I5-7600K on the left side and the I3-7100 on the right side.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7600K-vs-Intel-Core-i3-7100/3885vs3891

Always remember with Intel cpus always opt for the K versions of the cpu's those are often higher clock speed and overclockable.