Upgrading PC for new CPU, looking for sanity check for Ultrawide gaming and work

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Hi there!

So it's finally time that I must admit that overclocked 4770k is just not enough, lagging behind in both gaming and work, to the point where it annoys me so started to fiddle around towards upgrading it and this is the result I got so far: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/NLpWXP

The screen, GPU, PSU, disks, CPU cooling etc I am passing on from existing build; motherboard, RAM and CPU is what I plan to replace. This is a setup for work (quite heavy on RAM and CPU) and also 3440x1440 gaming, ideally 60-100fps range. I like to get good value for the money and have no problem spending more if it's worth it, so any and all advice is appreciated!

Thank you kindly!
 
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BTW, wen getting RAM, you want 4 sticks for a quad channel setup that this CPU supports (actually both intel and AMD)
So don't expect those sticks to run at very high speeds as more sticks/higher capacity run on lower frequencies than less sticks/lower capacity.
Performance wise, a dual rank stick at a bit lower frequency will perform about the same as higher frequency single rank RAM.
If you going with threadripper the official supported RAM is 2666MHz, the MB claims to support all the way up to 3600MHz.
So do your research what would be the best RAM kit.
Another thing about this MB is that it's EATX - it's a bit larger than usual, be sure your case is compatible.
If not, here is an ATX version that will fit normal case...
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That would be probably better for work and about the same for gaming. And will cost less.
Though your comments about 4770K lagging in gaming is kinda weird - I have one and it's does perfectly fine on 3440x1440@100Hz

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 1950X 3.4GHz 16-Core Processor (£781.97 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Enermax - LiqTech TR4 240 102.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£129.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X399-A EATX TR4 Motherboard (£250.97 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card (£1000.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£111.99 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: Acer - Predator X34 34.0" 3440x1440 100Hz Monitor
Total: £2275.35
 
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It lags for what I need it to do; not just gaming but, well, a lot of computing for work where 4 cores is just not enough. Though in some games it is also turning into a bottleneck for example Kingdom come deliverance, sometimes the CPU is the bottleneck, not GPU.

So from the changes, you would flip the CPU for AMD 1950x? I heard that suggestion before, but I will admit that I don't know anywhere near enough to make an informed decision myself so went with Intel as, well, I know Intel. But now I went digging, and couldn't find much against it but, if you don't mind a followup question - is there no downside to it? I rely quite heavily on virtual machines (VMware workstation, with quite a few flying at any given time) if that matters.

If there is no downside for it in that area, it seems like an obviously better choice.

Thanks for your time, truly appreciated already!
 
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1950x has more cores which is more convenient for having multiple VMs running.
The downside is that to get most of the Threadripper (or any other zen family CPU) you would want to overclock the RAM to 3000MHz or more.
Of course overclocking all cores toward 4Ghz is also a good idea (especially for gaming).
Other than that, I see no downside to this choice.
Other thing that can improve things with heavy IO of multiple VMs is the Intel 900P
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/memory-storage/solid-state-drives/gaming-enthusiast-ssds/optane-900p-series/900p-480gb-aic-20nm.html
though it's a bit small for a boot drive, programs and more than 2-3 VMs (5 really small windows machines)
 
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Thanks, that clears it up! IO is not that much of an issue, SATA SSDs are more than enough, and now my biggest bottleneck is strictly in the CPU, the ram will probably now follow through, but it's going to be a lot less notable than the current one so can live with that!

Thank you, solution picked!
 
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BTW, wen getting RAM, you want 4 sticks for a quad channel setup that this CPU supports (actually both intel and AMD)
So don't expect those sticks to run at very high speeds as more sticks/higher capacity run on lower frequencies than less sticks/lower capacity.
Performance wise, a dual rank stick at a bit lower frequency will perform about the same as higher frequency single rank RAM.
If you going with threadripper the official supported RAM is 2666MHz, the MB claims to support all the way up to 3600MHz.
So do your research what would be the best RAM kit.
Another thing about this MB is that it's EATX - it's a bit larger than usual, be sure your case is compatible.
If not, here is an ATX version that will fit normal case https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/3fYWGX/asus-rog-strix-x399-e-gaming-eatx-tr4-motherboard-rog-strix-x399-e-gaming
alternatively, you can treat yourself with new case.

Here is the updated list with case and RAM changes included:

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 1950X 3.4GHz 16-Core Processor (£775.36 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Enermax - LIQTECH TR4 280 80.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£114.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X399-A EATX TR4 Motherboard (£250.97 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£356.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card (£1000.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Fractal Design - Define R6 Black TG ATX Mid Tower Case (£127.50 @ Kustom PCs)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£111.99 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: Acer - Predator X34 34.0" 3440x1440 100Hz Monitor
Total: £2738.23

And I changed the AiO to a 280mm unit as it is cheaper and more performance and/or less noise wouldn't hurt (if you don't change the case, make sure it's supported).
Of course you can mix those lists as you find fit.
 
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