Bonding ADSL lines

kep55

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I've seen numerous posts about bonding ADSL lines and read reviews on Speedify ((http://speedify.com/). Here's my problem.
I have the dire misfortune of being stuck in the eighth circle of hell known as Frontier "Broadband" internet service. Their idea of broadband is less than 2.75Mbps D/L if no one within a hundred miles is on the same line at the same time. Add to that, the fools that built our house only put a single phone connection in the main room along a wall too small for any kind of desk or table. (Too add insult to injury, the goof who owned the house before us finished most of the basement and managed to cut most of the other phone lines inside.Seven rooms and only two jacks work.)
Finally, to the point. Is there any way to use Speedify or similar product to bond our pathetic ADSL service even though we can only connect to the modem via 802.11G? I already had to run a new coax cable because there was only one jack in the only corner where a sofa could be placed.I really don't feel like trying to find a live telephone line in the basement and trying to install another jack, especially considering there are more phone wires draped over the basement ceiling than in a switching office.
Thank you.
 
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Then there isn't anything you can do short of moving. Bonding isn't going to be your answer.

Think of it this way. Two accounts, and at best you'll get two times your current speed, 5.5Mbps. That's just not worth the money. Cell phone net, wifi net, moving, etc.

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If I remember Bonding DSL lines, you had to have two active different DSL lines. And a modem that could handle bonding. To be honest, I'm not sure any of this is still available anymore. I'd ask Frontier and see what they suggest on improving speed.
 
The only form of bonding that actually works well is one provided by ISP directly on the lines coming to your house. You would have to ask the ISP if they offer this services. Most phone lines have at least 4 wires so technically you could run 2 phone/dsl connections.

Sppedify is a fancy vpn used to solve the problem of combining connection that have different IP addresses. The problem is you just trade one type of problem for another. You get packets out of order. Say you have a stream of packets 1 1500 byte packet and 15 100 byte packets. It would start sending the 1500 byte packet on circuit 1. At the same time it would send the 15 smaller packets on circuit 2. The end device would think the 1500 byte packet got lost and request retranmission or drop the connection because of too many out of order packets. Packets out of order cause lag spikes in games also.

Speedify is doing this on the cheap. There are hardware appliances that fragment the packets or buffer the data to ensure that packets do not get out of order. Speedify tries to pretend the problem does not exist. At least if you dig around they do admit the problem exists unlike some of their competitors. Their solution.....set a special option to send all the packets on both links....so I bond 2 connections to get twice the bandwidth but then I send twice the data.
 

kep55

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You're kidding, right? I've tried everything under the sun to get better speed and service from Frontier, the second worse telecomm in America. I don't say it's the worse only because I haven't worked with all the others. They offer zero options, zero support, and zero customer support, and zero compliance with FCC rules on broadband. Hence my question on bonding.
 
That is the problem when you live where you have few options. The house I have in the country has no wired options, not even dsl.

Look to see if a WISP covers your house. You likely can get mobile broadband but it will be expensive, although there are some that will let you run at full speed above the cap if nobody else is using the bandwidth when you hit your cap. Even the limited speed at cap is not much slower than what you currently get. Then again it depends what cell companies have coverage, some have no cap but they charge per gigabyte of usage.
 

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Then there isn't anything you can do short of moving. Bonding isn't going to be your answer.

Think of it this way. Two accounts, and at best you'll get two times your current speed, 5.5Mbps. That's just not worth the money. Cell phone net, wifi net, moving, etc.
 
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