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funkyfido

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Hi
I have an internet connection from my ISP and I am connected to the internet via PPPOE protocol. However recently I purchased Asus RTAC58U router. While setting it up I noted that the router did not ask me for my username, password or the service name which my ISP had given me in order to connect to the internet using PPPOE.

The router instead used a protocol named 'Automatic IP' and connected to the internet. Now the good part is I am getting very good speeds over this more than what I have signed up for. However the minute I change it to PPPOE my speeds drop and I get the speed which I paid for.

My question is how does this work why is Automatic IP giving me phenomenal speed and PPPOE not? Is it that over PPPOE my ISP can control me and over dynamic IP he cannot if yes please explain how. Please explain me how does this concept works will really appreciate your response.

Thank you.
 
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BuddhaSkoota

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Are you connecting the Asus to your provider's modem? If so, then the modem is likely connected via PPPOE, so you would not have to set your Asus to also connect via PPPOE. It's possible that it's slower because of the additional overhead in connecting through two PPPOE sessions, although I'm not sure why an ISP would allow this in the first place.
 
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funkyfido

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I do not have a modem here I have an RJ-45 cable which I directly plugin into my routers wan port. Please explain what the automatic IP config is doing and how is it different from PPPoE
 
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Ethernet over twisted pair cable (cat 5) can't travel the distance from the ISP to your home The other end of the RJ-45 must connect to some device at your house. It's usually a modem, gateway, or optical network terminal. It may be helpful to know the name of your service provider. Also, what device is the Asus replacing?

Automatic IP config means your Asus is automatically getting an IP address either from the gateway at your house, or from your provider via modem.

PPPoE is the protocol by which your home device communicates with the ISP. PPPoE is usually employed by DSL providers for authentication. If you have DSL, there should be some sort of modem/router/gateway around your house.
 
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funkyfido

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Hi that is correct I have a device on my terrace from where the wire comes to my house looks like a router only. This device is then connected to multiple similar devices building to building till it reaches the ISPs building. Can you tell me what is this device wat does it do and why am I getting more speed on automatic IP than PPPoE
 
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Alabalcho

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Your question sounds like "Hey, I have a box in my garage, doing something which I don't know. Can you tell me what thix box is doing?"

Again - you may not even need a router with PPPoE, its functions can be already performed by that box on the terrace, or may be your ISP is stupid enough not to enforce PPPoE. Contact your ISP with your question, or just live your life.
 
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Alabalcho

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And your question is, "What is this box on the terrace I don't know about"?
If I said, "it is a bird house", would you be happy?

Several people tried to explain to you why what you see is what you see. You keep providing no details about what you have (starting with your ISP, and all the boxes between it and your computer). So, yes - it is a bird house, and birds fly faster when free.
 
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