OC 8700k What cooling system to choose?

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So as the title says i want to OC my 8700k, when i receive it.
i am not going to delied it, i hope for 5 GHz, but obviously that depends on luck.
money isn't really an issue as long as the cost is justified in features and ability to cool and keep noise to a minimum.
i am used to air cooling, but have finally convinced myself to trust AIO coolers as well.
i have been considering Noctua NH-D15, NZXT Kraken X64 or Corsair h150i pro.
doesn't have to either of those 3, they just peaked my interest Noctua, a very good air cooler. NZXT very pretty, imo, while being a good cooler(according to tests?) the corsair, more fans is better....right?
if it makes any difference i am trying my hands on some streaming just as a hobby-thing at some near future.
Rest of my setup is:
Fractal Design Define R6
Asus maximus x hero was going with Asus strix z730-e, but found some extra cash and thought why not.
G.Skill TridentZ DDR4-3200
Zotac 1080 AMP
Corsair cx 750 power supply

looking forward to hear what suggestions people have.

thanks in advance
 
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I suggest the Noctua NH-D15s.
Your case cooling is excellent and the included stock fan setup(2 140mm front intakes, one 140mm rear exhaust) is perfect.
The noctua s suffix coolers are redesigned with two added benefits:
1. They are slightly offset to clear graphics card backplates installed in the first pcie x16 slot.
2. They are designed to clear ram with tall heat spreaders. The NH-D15s costs no more and is a more compact cooler.

FWIW:
My canned rant on liquid cooling:
------------------------start of rant-------------------
You buy a liquid cooler to be able to extract an extra multiplier or two out of your OC.
How much do you really need?
I do not much like all in one liquid coolers when a good air cooler like a Noctua or...
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Noctua or Corsair if you ask me.

Corsair has better software and better support if something goes wrong compared to the NZXT.

Performance vice when you look at the Corsair vs NZXT the overall difference is small.
For noice the Corsair wins over the NZXT.
 
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Most of your 5ghz overclock is going to be how good your chip is, how good your motherboard, RAM and power supply are, but most important, how good your overclocking skills are. Cooler choice (provided it isn't stock Intel HSF) is probably the last thing you'll have holding you back.

That being said, you don't have to buy any of those to get a good cooler or even spend anything near what you're proposing to spend.

 
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So what coolers do you think would be good for my purpose? since your saying i don't need to spend what i'm proposing? i'm always interested in saving money ;)
 
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You could use a Cryorig R1 - will cool like a champ and not look hellish like that Noctua.

Any of the air coolers will likely require you swich to low profile ram like corsair vengeance lpx.

The Hero isn’t a bad board, but what do you actually get for the extra over the -E? I’ll put money down that side by side in a game they are indistinguishable and both will get you 5.0 (chip willing).

Do not use that entry level psu with that nice rig for any reason. Never cheap out on the psu. Seasonic Focus or the like.

Are you putting in an SSD?
 
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I suggest the Noctua NH-D15s.
Your case cooling is excellent and the included stock fan setup(2 140mm front intakes, one 140mm rear exhaust) is perfect.
The noctua s suffix coolers are redesigned with two added benefits:
1. They are slightly offset to clear graphics card backplates installed in the first pcie x16 slot.
2. They are designed to clear ram with tall heat spreaders. The NH-D15s costs no more and is a more compact cooler.

FWIW:
My canned rant on liquid cooling:
------------------------start of rant-------------------
You buy a liquid cooler to be able to extract an extra multiplier or two out of your OC.
How much do you really need?
I do not much like all in one liquid coolers when a good air cooler like a Noctua or phanteks can do the job just as well.
A liquid cooler will be expensive, noisy, less reliable, and will not cool any better
in a well ventilated case.
Liquid cooling is really air cooling, it just puts the heat exchange in a different place.
The orientation of the radiator will cause a problem.
If you orient it to take in cool air from the outside, you will cool the cpu better, but the hot air then circulates inside the case heating up the graphics card and motherboard.
If you orient it to exhaust(which I think is better) , then your cpu cooling will be less effective because it uses pre heated case air.
Past that, A AIO radiator complicates creating a positive pressure filtered cooling setup which can keep your parts clean.
And... I have read too many tales of woe when a liquid cooler leaks.
Google for AIO leaks to see what can happen.
While unlikely, leaks do happen.

I would support an AIO cooler primarily in a space restricted case.
If one puts looks over function, that is a personal thing; not for me though.
-----------------------end of rant--------------------------

Your pc will be quieter, more reliable, and will be cooled equally well with a decent air cooler.
 
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@J_E_D_70 I was under the impression that the noctua would be high enough for rams? because you can move one fan a bit up, just making room for the ram.
To be honest i don't know to much about motherboards, i just read that the strix and hero are similar, but the hero is build of better and more sturdy materials, and i was like " i want a good sturdy motherboard" if anyone says they are the same i wouldn't really have a problem changing, as i haven't bought anything yet.
Oh dear lord a new PSU as well, this thing is just from my old rig, served me fine so far, didn't think it was a entry level or anything. so what Seasonic Focus can you recommend?
yes i am putting my two samsung 850 pro in this system. getting a 960 pro NVMe M.2 when i can afford it.

@geofelt Thank you for the rant ;) so based on what people say i'm leaning towards the air cooling.
is the NH-D15s just as good as the NH-D15? i was just thinking, less cooler makes less cooling. This isn't the case?
 
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True - most big air coolers let you move it assuming there is additional clearance to the case side. I’d rather get low pro ram and put the fan on right but that’s personal preference. The Noctua would be great regardless.

Easy psu button is in my sig. 650w is plenty but you could go 750w.

Note on the 960 pro - coming from those 850 pro’s it isn’t going to feel much faster in daily use and gaming. I was kinda disappointed in my Evo coming from an 850 evo.
 
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i get what you mean about moving the fans. i would get low profile if the weren't so much more expensive where i'm from. well maybe i will anyway depends on what my build is going to end up with budget wise :)

im not sure im reading about the PSU correct. "Easy psu button" what is that? :) i cant find anything on it if i try google it.

thank you on the ssd note, i will keep that in mind.
 
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I have been running AIO's since they came out predominantly the Corsair ones with my last one lasting 3 years the H110. Never had a problem and have always kept my CPU cool from a 4790K to my current i7-8700K.

I have just upgraded to a 360mm AIO from Antec the Mercury 360 which is a cheap and cheerful AIO. Temps for my 8700K overclock to 5GHz hit the mid 70's under full load on Aida and Prime 95. On average at idle I am in the mid 20's to 30 degrees and in games never really above 50 degrees. My reasons are just that I like the look and space afforded around the CPU and the cooling performance when overclocked. No problems with Ram, GPU and some NVMe drives that have been placed jus under the CPU for clearance.

The best Air coolers like Noctua will also do a fantastic job its just I did not want a huge chunk of metal blocking the CPU area especially when making changes or upgrading.

It is definatly worth checking out good 240/280 and 360mm AIO's depending on budget as they will do as good a job as an air cooler under most circumstances and as far as the 8700K is concerend especially when overclocking, a good AIO will allow you to push the overclock whilst keeping temps in check.
 
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