M2 NVME SSD for video editing worh getting it over a regular SATA SSD?

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Jorge_acosta

Jorge_acosta

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Hello guys, i have following system:

Ryzen 7 1700x
GTX 1060 6GB
16GB RAM @2933 Mhz
Gigabyte GA-AX370-Gaming K5
400GB SATA SSD
2 TB 7200 rpm HDD
650w EVGA PE supernova PSU


I use this machine for gaming and video editing, i have a youtube channel about fishing, so i edit lots of gopro footage, mostly 1080p @60fps but i do shoot some b-roll at 240fps to get that nice slow motion footage... Also i am intersted in shooting a bit in 4k so i can crop the image without loosing detail.

I used to have a FX8320e system but that was very limitng for creating content for my channel so I upgraded to ryzen 7 thinking that with that i will have a very smooth video editing experience... but it seems that my HDD is bottlenecking my video editing, i often get choppy playback and i have to preview my video at High quality (can't do HD quality, it gets choppy all the time)

I use my current SSD for OS and most used software, the video files i edit for my videos are stored on the HDD. So i am thinking in getting a new SSD to use it for dumping the video files of my current project while i work with them and then delete them all when the project is done. I was thinking in getting a M2 SSD, but i readed a bit and found out that it has to be a NVME SSD to actually be faster than a regular SATA SSD, but NVME SSDs are expensive, so i have to decide between a 250GB M2 NVME SSD or a 500 GB SATA SSD... for my projects i usually have to work with around 150 GB - 200 GB of data...

So the question is, the NVME extra speed is worth it over the double the capacity of the SATA SSD?? Or for my intended use i will not notice much difference in performance?


Thank you guys!
 
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Jorge, the difference between a mechanical drive and a SATA SSD is much greater than the difference between a SATA SSD and a NvME SSD. I suspect you would get good results with the SATA SSD.
If by chance you wear it out in a couple years (unlikely), then blockpasser's analogy of a NASCAR driver wearing out tires is apt; just because you wear something out doesn't mean you didn't need it. Having to replace it every now and then might just be a cost of your work.
Good luck with your channel.
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electro_neanderthal

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I don't think the hard drive is the issue, at least it shouldn't be with 16GB of RAM, unless all the files you work with (at one time) are 14GB or larger. Storage affects initial loading times, but if you're having trouble during playback and editing, I think your issue lies elsewhere... maybe the video card? Try either a newer video card driver, or install an older stable driver that works well.

But if you do use more than 14 GB, you could either try to add more RAM or go with something you suggested. I can't say much about how worth the price increase may be.
 
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Jorge_acosta

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Thank you for your imput, the thing is that I thought the bottleneck was in the HDD becouse it goes to 100% usage when previewing the project in the timeline... GPU usage usually dosen't go above 30% and RAM i've never seen it over 8GB usage...
 
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Using a SSD for video editing is the fastest way to damage it from constant re-writes. Plus is absolutely not needed, look up into the task manager to see the actual HDD usage during video encoding - probably it's 1/10 of what that HDD can do.

GPU usage is dependent of the actual NLE software that you use. Some can use better the hardware encoding, some don't use it at all. You didn't say what you use, in my experience Cyberlink's PowerDirector is one of the fastest ones.
Tried Corel's two NLE (Corel VideoStudio and Pinnacle Studio), Adobe Premiere, Sony's Vegas Pro (now it was sold to MAGIX, din't try it since then, the MainConcept AVC/AAC encoder has been replaced with the MAGIX AVC/AAC encoder)...
Also, the AMD CPU's performance in video editing is not so good, every software that I know reacts better to Intel CPU's (as in I7, Xeon).
 
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I work with on SSD for video editing since 2012 now.

Which Pro would tell you, to use normal HDDs for video editing.

And we dont have to talk about hooy software like Power Director,

That a SSD can be damaged while video editing is as when you say a tyre will die during
a nascar race.

Man, professionals need power!
 
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Which editing software do you use?
I found I had to go to raided HDD's back on my AMD 6 core (Thuban) processor so I suspect that you will need 'more' also. I've since moved up to nearly all SSD's save for storage and media.

Adobe typically likes an SSD scratch drive, and I have a Source and Destination SSD raids as well.

 
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Jorge, the difference between a mechanical drive and a SATA SSD is much greater than the difference between a SATA SSD and a NvME SSD. I suspect you would get good results with the SATA SSD.
If by chance you wear it out in a couple years (unlikely), then blockpasser's analogy of a NASCAR driver wearing out tires is apt; just because you wear something out doesn't mean you didn't need it. Having to replace it every now and then might just be a cost of your work.
Good luck with your channel.
 
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Update: I was using Cyberlink PowerDirector 15 i got my SATA SSD and the preview still wasn't smooth, so i tried Adobe Premiere PRO, everything runs smooth! Even when editing 4k Footage.
 
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