Is this build I'm looking at purchasing overkill?

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deadsa13er

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Hi,

I've been trying to decide whether or not to start purchasing my parts for the past couple days, since I think the build I've chosen may be overkill.

Reason I haven't purchased them yet is because I thought I could potentially get a less powerful build, but keep this one upgrade friendly. Potentially stay with the i7 but lower the GPU or other components to make it not burn such a big hole in my pocket.

My current monitor is 1080P although if I did go for this build I'd buy a second 1440P monitor to go alongside it.

Only intended uses would be gaming/browsing the web. I don't video edit nor stream etc.

Any feedback would be appreciated,

Thanks!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor (£297.54 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15S 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler (£72.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£127.95 @ Box Limited)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£174.16 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£138.00 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card (£578.64 @ Aria PC)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£43.48 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 (EU) 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£84.99 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£82.80 @ Aria PC)
Total: £1636.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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For just your needs an 8600k is plenty. It's a 6c/6t chip, so even with games starting to make use of more threads, it should still be sufficient for quite some time. A 550w PSU might be a little on the low side, once overclocking comes into play.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor (£213.59 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15S 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler (£72.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£127.95 @ Box Limited)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£186.89 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB M.2-2280 Solid...
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It is an Overkill if you ask me. If not streaming or editing, you can make do with an 8600k, but the 8700k will last longer. If you step down to the 8600k, use the money to pick up the an M.2 version of that SSD.

Also, there is a new GPU release this month so you might want to wait for more options.
 
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For 1440P, you could go down to 1070 or 1070 ti, but if you can afford GTX 1080 then it wouldn't hurt to get it. Also, if you don't video edit or render, then you could drop the CPU down to an 8600k or even 8400.
 
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Have you got a source on the new GPU release date? If it really is this month I'll wait for sure.
 
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is the i7-7700K not worth it seeing as it's only slightly better than the i5-8600k?
 
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Thats where you got me. Articles place sources at saying this month release and going on sale late April/Early May.

However, I do have one source. A mate of mine works as an CIO for a bank, and recently they were viewing DGX100's (I think that is the name) for sale as they were interested in buying them for heavy financial projecting. While customizing the options, he noticed that they could pick up a Titan V in the system. One thing led to another, and soon he was viewing the gaming performance of the card, something he really liked. He asked the Nvidia representative if there was any news on the next gen release, half expecting no response or a joke because such info tends to be quite above that pay grade. However, the representative did have an estimate of a release this month and sale next month on.

Take it with a grain salt, but one of my sources.
 
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Well it's likely that I won't be purchasing any parts until mid April anyway so I guess I'll just cross my fingers and hope that it's out by then.
 
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the setup seems alright.
generally, here is how i see it.
it better to compare a game (fps) vs price of whole system($), since you are buying a new system.
i'll use PUBG as an example as it is one of the most demanding title right now.
as for graphic card choice, i'll exclude AMD as they are more inflated then the nvidia.
i'll include only the 10th gen card, brand new card.

i live in Canada, so here is the price for 1060/1070/1080 and 1080ti (cad converted to euro)
assume you will go with 1060 as your lowest graphic choice. I'll use it as 100% benchmark.
All other cards are compared against this card.


1060 = 300 euro, 1070 = 500 euro, 1070 = 500 euro, 1080 = 580 euro, 1080 ti = 770 euro (from newegg.ca)


your new whole system price will be 1636.54-578.64+300 = 1357.9 => 1360 (round off)

1050ti = 170, 1060 = 1360, 1070 to 1560, 1070 ti to 1560, 1080 to 1640, 1080 ti to 1830.
PRICE "1080p Ultra
Pubg" PUBG FPS %FPS/%PRICE
1050 ti 1230 90% 42.6 63% 70%
1060 1360 100% 67.7 100% 100%
1070 1560 115% 72.3 107% 93%
1070 ti 1560 115% 78.8 116% 101%
1080 1640 121% 86.2 127% 106%
1080 ti 1830 135% 92.7 137% 102%



resource for pubg fps:
https://www.fpsbenchmark.com/pubg

as you can see, you can ignore 1050ti and 1070 , the rest looks like fairly linear in terms of performance / price ratio.

if you look at the 1080, its pretty good, it has the highest performance to price ratio in this comparison.
usually you would expect it to decline as you are expect to pay a premium over performance, which is not the case here.
Assuming you are buy all new parts, i would say go for it.

feel free to rerun these numbers with uk price, i think it will be quite similar.
Good Luck.

 
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For just your needs an 8600k is plenty. It's a 6c/6t chip, so even with games starting to make use of more threads, it should still be sufficient for quite some time. A 550w PSU might be a little on the low side, once overclocking comes into play.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor (£213.59 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15S 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler (£72.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£127.95 @ Box Limited)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£186.89 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£121.19 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£59.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card (£578.64 @ Aria PC)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£43.48 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£101.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£82.80 @ Aria PC)
Total: £1589.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I noticed in that new build you the RAM, SSD and HDD. Might I ask the reasoning for this? I only ask because I'm not too knowledgeable on parts so I'm willing to learn more. If you believe those parts are a better choice I'm happy to go for it!
 
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I would kindly add my two cents here, the tridentz suggested is no different from the Ripjaw OP pick.
the best ddr4 memory uses samsung b-die. which this kit do not use.

a simple way to tell if its b-die or not is to look at the cas timing/memory capacity/speed if a memory fits these criteria, it's most like samsung b-die
1. >= 8gb per stick
2. >= 3600MHz rated speed
3. 3200 MHz but using cl14

as for ssd choice, this m.2 ssd menioned uses m.2 sata interface which is capped around 500 MB/s-600MB/s read.
I agree that m.2 has a cleaner build (no sata/power cable) but it is better to just get NVMe based m.2 ssd for a bit more.
Example, Samsung NVMe EVO 960 has advertised speed of 3200 MB/s read.

regards,
 
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