Timing? How much should I consider it?

_dawn_chorus_ · Mar 23, 2018

I currently have:
G.Skill 16gb (2x8) DDR4 2133
Timing: 15-15-15-35
CAS Latency: 15

I want to buy:
G.Skill 16gb (2x8) DDR4 3000
Timing:15-16-16-35
CAS Latency: 15

Or:
G.Skill 16gb (2x8) DDR4 3200
Timing:16-18-18-38
CAS Latency: 16

So I notice that the timing is slower on both of the "higher" speed kits than on my 2133. How big of a role does the timing play? I feel like the 3000 is the way to go in this as the 3200 timing seems rather high, despite having that glorious 3200 over the 3000.

Someone save me 2 days of researching as there is a today only sale I want to take advantage of.

scout_03 · Mar 23, 2018

give full name of those g-skill ram with number .

_dawn_chorus_ · Mar 23, 2018

scout_03 :

2133: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2133 (PC4 17000) Intel Z170 Platform / Intel X99 Platform Desktop Memory Model F4-2133C15D-16GVR

Link:https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231884&cm_re=g.skill_2133-_-20-231-884-_-Product

3000:G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Intel Z170 Platform Memory Kit Model F4-3000C15D-16GVKB

Link:https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232298&ignorebbr=1

3200:G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Intel Z170 Platform / Intel X99 Platform Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C16D-16GVKB

Link:https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231941&ignorebbr=1

scout_03 · Mar 23, 2018

you have ram that work at 1.20 volts and try to use one that will work at 1.35 volts so buy something similar the one you have or get full new set of the highest speed one from your motheboard support list . they might be a lot of issue mixing those ram .

_dawn_chorus_ · Mar 23, 2018

scout_03 :

I'm swapping out, not adding in.

I will still be using 16gb total and putting the 2133 on another build.

scout_03 · Mar 23, 2018

then if the 3200 is in compatibilty list of you board go for it .

madmatt30 · Mar 23, 2018

The 3000mhz & 3200mhz are going to perform pretty much identical .

Virtually the same ram sticks apart from the 3200 has been binned at a slightly higher speed.

The 3000mhz would likely hit the same if you tried it manually.

_dawn_chorus_ · Mar 23, 2018

madmatt30 :

I just found this chart, which comes to the same conclusion. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hXCogI15jJpz_0DBigyrufsU2mvsfzanS86DVPwmJ-s/edit#gid=0

Is there anything else to consider then?

scout_03 · Mar 23, 2018

both the 3000 and 3200 use samsung b-die .

madmatt30 · Mar 23, 2018

Things to consider ??

Pretty much price is all .

$10 more for the 3200 ??
I'd probably pay that , anymore I 100% definitely wouldn't.

In 99% of usage scenarios you will see no difference whatsoever.

The 1% you would see a difference would be solely in memory benchmarking apps (which isn't real world usage) & even then it would be miniscule.

Whats your usage scenario ?
What the price difference in ram?
Whats the rest of your system specs ?

gasaraki · Mar 23, 2018

Are you running an Intel system? If you are, RAM speed doesn't matter as much so 3000 vs 3200 will not be noticeable. For RAM you almost always want to go higher speed then lower timings. Now if you can do higher speed and lower timings that would be the best. But like I said, it's probably not worth the cost nowadays for Intel systems.

If you are running AMD Ryzen, you will want the faster memory possible on the lowest timing possible. However don't go too fast because Ryzen memory support sucks. 3200 is probably the highest for decent memory support.

_dawn_chorus_ · Mar 23, 2018

madmatt30 :

-Beyond web browsing I do a good bit of gaming, and a lot of music production. I just saw a couple demonstrations that some games see about 15-20 fps gain from faster RAM so that is one selling point.

-The price between the 3000 c15 and the 3200 c16 is about 2 dollars

Specs:
i7-7700
16gb DDR4 2133
EVGA 1080 SC2
MSI B250 Mortar Mobo
Corsair RM 550x

and I am aware my board will only run up to 2133, but I built my girlfriend a franken rig out of a tiny Dell and a 1060 6gb and I want to upgrade her before we play some upcoming titles. She will need a CPU, MoBo, & RAM so I figure I'd nab it before prices get any worse and get a new board soon.
I almost did not buy my 1080 a couple months ago because I thought ah prices will go down soon, but since they have gone up $100 on my same card from EVGA's site.

Check out the Franken rig if you want a laugh. ha:
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Dawn_Chorus/builds/#view=T7sZxr

_dawn_chorus_ · Mar 23, 2018

gasaraki :

That sounds like a good rule of thumb, and yes I have a i7-7700. Are there potential hick-ups I could face getting RAM that fast? (3200) Or should it be smooth sailing?

_dawn_chorus_ · Mar 23, 2018

scout_03 :

I am not sure I understand the significance of that to be honest. ha

scout_03 · Mar 24, 2018

on a ryzen cpu they are getting there fastest jedec that why i post this .

madmatt30 · Mar 24, 2018

^ yeah , intel is far less picky.

For $2 ?? Just go with the 3200

_dawn_chorus_ · Mar 24, 2018

madmatt30 :

If I run the 3200 on my current build will there be a disadvantage to having 3200 ram under-clocked to 2133?

Also I just read another post that said my 7700 non K can only run up to 2400?

Does that mean I need a K processor, possibly overclocked, just to run the ram at 3200?

scout_03 · Mar 25, 2018

see this could run up to 2600 http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3375955/2400mhz-2666mhz-7700.html

madmatt30 · Mar 25, 2018

Depending on the board you may be able to run full speed.

HOWEVER

The caveat here is (because I've only just checked that other rig specs) that other build uses ddr3.

You cannot repurpose your existing 2133mhz ddr4 ram into it !!

_dawn_chorus_ · Mar 25, 2018

madmatt30 :

Yeah, I worded that message funny but we want to upgrade the franken rigs motherboard/ram/cpu (at once) and so I figured I would upgrade my systems ram and mobo at least and put the hand-me-downs on that one as my girlfriend just does some light gaming really, but we want to keep it up to date for future titles. Thanks for catching/mentioning that though as it would had been terrible to realize after the fact.

I'll have to look more into motherboards then, I didn't realize they played such a roll with memory speeds.

_dawn_chorus_ · Mar 25, 2018

scout_03 :

Nice! That's some good info! I am now thinking if I am making the leap I better really do it and may just upgrade my processor as well, I really want to stick with air cooling though so we will see.

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