Cloning drives, Windows won't boot.

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So, I'm trying to move all of the data from my friend's crappy laptop (an old HP with a slow 120 Gb HDD) over to a new desktop I built him with a 250 Gb SSD. Both of the drives work fine, just a few things:

1. I wanted to move everything in one foul swoop, so I cloned the HDD to the SSD with Macrium Reflect (latest) and when I put it into the new desktop I built; which runs windows fine, I tested, it wouldn't boot into windows (Windows 7 btw). It would start to and before the colored circles met into the logo, it would freeze and restart, taking me into Startup Repair.

2. There were no previous versions to revert to in Repair, and I didn't want to restore the system because I needed his data on the new system, duh. And the repair option did nothing.

3. I've read that sometimes you just get a bad copy (with any software) and to just try cloning again. Same problem.

4. I did notice in Macrium that the partitions were all the same except for the main Windows one, which was 75 Gb on the original drive and only 70 Gb on the new drive after cloning. Not sure what could be missing, maybe Windows files? When I try to reinstall windows in Repair it says I can't because their are no files on the drive. Why didn't it create an exact copy and how do I get that stuff to copy over?

5. My other alternative is to install Windows 7 separately on the new drive, copy his files over with a 500 Gb scratch drive, then install all of his programs manually? That would suck and I don't think it would work, because things like Microsoft Office and Quickbooks only have one-use keys? Don't want to buy them again...

6. Not sure if this would affect it, but it's a laptop to desktop, hard drive to SSD conversion, so I connected the SSD to the laptop in an external enclosure via a USB 3.0 cable. would that affect cloning?

I thought that this was a pretty simple procedure, but I've been hassling with this thing for days. For me, data management always goes wrong. Any help is appreciated!
 
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The "problem" is/was...
"from my friend's crappy laptop (an old HP with a slow 120 Gb HDD) over to a new desktop"

You can't simply move a drive from a laptop into a new desktop, and expect it to actually boot up.
A clone of that drive is no different.

The desktop needs a fresh install.

The MS Office and Quickbooks will need to be reinstalled, along with all the other applications.

USAFRet

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Cloning does not work that way.
It doesn't automagically make OS A work in PC B.

Especially if this is "laptop to desktop".

Your desktop needs a full clean install of whichever OS you want to end up with.
 
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There are issues with #5, though. Will he actually have to buy new product keys for his programs? Why can't I get a successful clone while other people can?
 
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Cloning does not work that way.
It doesn't automagically make OS A work in PC B.

Especially if this is "laptop to desktop".

Your desktop needs a full clean install of whichever OS you want to end up with.[/quotemsg]

In #4 I try to reinstall windows in Startup Repair, and there are no files to install from. How would you move data across?
 

USAFRet

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No.
Startup Repair is not what I'm talking about.

Boot from a whole new install USB or DVD, and do a full clean install.
This, of course, will wipe everything on whatever drive you're installing on.
 
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Well, I went to do that before and realized that not all of his files were on Onedrive. It's not too much that they can't be moved over to the new drive via flashdrive or scratch disk, but what about programs? Will he have to buy new product keys for Microsoft Office and Quickbooks, etc? That's expensive.
 

USAFRet

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No, you won't have to buy a new MS office.
Assuming you have the actual license key from the original install.
 
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Am I just oblivious? Is this just how it has to be done for drives not compatible for bootable cloning? I'll have to see if Quickbooks is the same...
 

USAFRet

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The "problem" is/was...
"from my friend's crappy laptop (an old HP with a slow 120 Gb HDD) over to a new desktop"

You can't simply move a drive from a laptop into a new desktop, and expect it to actually boot up.
A clone of that drive is no different.

The desktop needs a fresh install.

The MS Office and Quickbooks will need to be reinstalled, along with all the other applications.
 
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Wee Hawk

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beepbooppc,The clone from the laptop still has the settings for the laptop, not the settings for the PC. This works best from one drive to the same kind of drive in the same machine. That's why the old system is not working in the new system. Yes, you most likely have to do a fresh install.