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Hi guys, first time poster here(lurked for quite a while) ^_^

So, I've had my gaming PC for 2-3 years now, it used to be my brothers, was bought back in 2013 I believe. The model is Scan 3XS Z87 Vengeance 780. What was a £1800 mid to high range PC at the time, is now starting to show its age.

Specs -
CPU: Intel core i74770k
Motherboard: Gigabyte z87x-OC
Memory: 2x8GB Corsair Memory Vengeance Pro Series Silver DDR 3
Graphics: 3GB EVGA GeForce GTX 780
Storage: 2TB Western Digital WD20EZRX sata 3 HDD + 512GB Samsung 840 pro SSD
Power supply: Corsair HX850w gold
Cooler - Phanteks-TC12DX CPU COOLER

Given that my outdated GPU appears to be the main drawback, I'm looking to upgrade. After mooching for a while these three cards seem like the safest bets given my budget of £250 -
GTX 1050TI
GTX 970
GTX 1060

Thoughts? Any idea which of the three would best fit my rig? and what price would you look to pay? From what I can see there's be a sizable price hike on most if not all GPU's, especially the 970 and 1060, which kinda sucks.

Right, this seems like the time to mention that I play H1Z1 almost exclusively...and will be playing competitively in the near future, after I upgrade my setup. I have little to no desire to play super graphically demanding titles at the moment, just thought I'd mention that as my needs may differ from somebody buying a GPU to play The Witcher 3, for example.

Since I got the PC I've been playing on a 60Hz monitor(funny I know). I played competitive COD on console for 7 years so I just used a spare monitor for the PC. Anyway, I've been told by teammates time and time again that I was putting a ceiling on my skill level and thus ability to compete(in H1Z1 specifically) by using the 60Hz monitor. So, I'm finally heeding their advice and ordering a BenQ XL2411(144Hz monitor), should be arriving in a few days.

Finally, is there anything I should look out for, potential bottlenecking if I were to upgrade to a 1060? or just any compatibility issues that a tech noob like me might not think of?

Thanks a million guys, any info is massively appreciated. Cheers!

Ben
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    I'd say the minimum you need to look at is a 1060 6gb.

    The 970 & 1060 3gb , while an improvement , are not worth the spend for the gains you get.

    The 1050ti , while it does beat a 780 in 'some' newer titles , I would actually consider inferior.

    £250 , at this point in time , will not get you a valid gpu upgrade - the mining craze has inflated prices to the point of stupidity.
  2. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B01K7I7M00/ref=mp_s_a_1_22?ie=UTF8&qid=1521904739&sr=8-22&refinements=p_76%3A419158031&rps=1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=gtx+1060+6gb&dpPl=1&dpID=51Sw903oQYL&ref=plSrch

    Currently £285 is the cheapest 1060 6gb in the uk.

    In reality its a £230 card (or at least it was 6-9 months ago)

    Do not expect prices to change anytime soon.
  3. really you can get a used rx 480 or 1060 6gb for about 250 if you look around
  4. ^ no , you absolutely can't
  5. madmatt30 said:
    ^ no , you absolutely can't


    yes you can, I personally have found them near me for around that. that's about 350usd and the 1060 6gb is only 450-500 new in usd so yes you absolutely can
  6. madmatt30 said:
    I'd say the minimum you need to look at is a 1060 6gb.

    The 970 & 1060 3gb , while an improvement , are not worth the spend for the gains you get.

    The 1050ti , while it does beat a 780 in 'some' newer titles , I would actually consider inferior.

    £250 , at this point in time , will not get you a valid gpu upgrade - the mining craze has inflated prices to the point of stupidity.


    thanks for the advice mate, I'll try for a 1060 6GB on the cheap then if possible
  7. Agreed, the 1060 is about the only card that's barely an improvement if the budget is that small. The 1050TI isn't really "better".

    NormH, if you can link him a 1060 for £250 then do so. Matt linked the cheapest 1060 he could find for more than that. Telling him "yes you can if you just look" isn't really helpful.
  8. 4745454b said:
    Agreed, the 1060 is about the only card that's barely an improvement if the budget is that small. The 1050TI isn't really "better".

    NormH, if you can link him a 1060 for £250 then do so. Matt linked the cheapest 1060 he could find for more than that. Telling him "yes you can if you just look" isn't really helpful.


    just out of curiosity, how much of a difference would I be likely to see from a 780 to a 1060 frame wise? I don't expect precise number or anything but yano, a ball park figure? would my i7-4770k be bottlenecked at all? thanks btw
  9. new cards here also https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/QVWrxr,Ft7CmG,MwgPxr/

    a small bit above 250 but new for a 1060 6gb
  10. This is tricky.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-970-maxwell,3941-8.html

    Here is the review of the 970. Depending on the game, it's as fast, faster or slower than a 780TI. Lets make this easy and say that a 970 ~ 780. Ish. I know not exact and it seems to be super game dependent, but a 970 should provide an overall similar gaming experience to the 780.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-pascal,4679-3.html

    I mention all that because in the 1060 review there are no 7 series cards. But the 970 is there so lets treat that as the 780. Looking at the games in the list I see the 1060 to be ~10% faster than the 970/780. This is why I said in my previous post "barely an improvement". For me, 10% more FPS isn't worth $250+. More so if you have your 780 at stock clocks. At this point in time I'd just keep the 780 and see how it works with the new monitor.
  11. If you already got a GTX780, there is really nothing cost effective for you upgrade to. See:
    https://www.techspot.com/article/1596-ultimate-used-gpu-benchmarking/page2.html

    It would be basically a side grade to go to a GTX1060 class equivalent. So unless you are willing to throw down some big money like $500+ for a GTX1070 or better, you are better off saving your money.
  12. I like page one better. Has a performance graph for Nvidia cards.

    https://www.techspot.com/article/1596-ultimate-used-gpu-benchmarking/page1.html

    If you look at the chart, the 970 and the 780 do indeed line up very similar. They do claim the 1060 6GB is ~20% faster, not 10%. 10% isn't worth it at all, 20% might be, but overall I don't think your 780 is that much slower than the 1060. The difference between 126 and 107 isn't that huge.
  13. Far more complicated than running across tier performance charts when you're dealing with old g110 architecture on the keplar cards.

    Nvidia came under massive flak regarding the performance of these cards post 2016.
    The performance drop off is massive in newer titles to the point that a 1050ti can match or beat a 780ti (some 20% stronger than a 780) in some titles.



    Whether its the architecture at fault , or whether its down to nvidia not properly supporting these cards with driver updates (which has been more than hinted at in the past by angry owners).

    The 780 is beaten consumately by an amd 7970/280x from the same era which was a card that at the time completed with the 760 & 770
    The 780ti is utterly crushed by a 290x nowadays , at the time the 290x was the best amd card available & it could barely match a 780.

    The outcome of this ??
    A 1060 in reality is some 50% stronger than a 780 , moreso in nvidia enhanced titles.

    Id consider it a viable upgrade personally.
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