Need help on deciding a new gaming pc

Obviously if you can afford the rig with the 1070, go for it. It's going to be able to play games at 1080p60 longer than the 1060 rig.

That said, I really don't get where you're sourcing those prices, because I'm seeing 950 pounds for an R7, and that's with a 1050 Ti.

Be very careful where you buy from if the price seems too good to be true, because it could be a scam site selling refurbished product.

And the reason they offer same warranty on refurbs is because they only have a 1 year warranty to begin with. You DO realize don't you that all major retail box components when you build your own PC have at least THREE yr manufacturer warranties? That includes, MB, RAM (lifetime), CPU, GPU, HDD (5 yr on decent ones), PSU (5 yr on decent ones). The case is literally the only exception, but even some of those (like my Actec DF-85) come with 2 yr, not 1.

What OEM builders like Dell do is buy OEM vs retail box parts, which basically have no manufacturer warranty.

Yet above you exampled the warranty as an attractive selling point "You just can't compete with Dell refurbs, same as new warranty".

As far as PCPartPicker, they often don't show best deals, like Newegg's email promos and coupons. I just got a 8700k for $310 and Corsair Vengeance 2x8GB 3200 LPX for $170 from them. You won't see deals like that on PCPartPicker because they don't show coupon deals, email subscriber promos, or the even better deals Newegg offers if they make a clerical error, which is why I got my 8700k for $310

Plus you have to be realistic, if you're looking at Dell refurbs, you need to compare refurb deals elsewhere, not brand new. It's not at all the same thing. Sure they test them and claim they're like new, but anything can appear to run for a brief test as if new, only to last 2-3 yrs vs 5 or more like it should, because it's already been run hard and/or abused by a previous customer.

Waiting till Black Friday is a long way off. If you can hold out till then, go ahead. But don't go for a 1050Ti. Step down to a 1060 6GB and it will still serve you well. If you decide not to upgrade, the 1060 will still be relevant for some time.

i7 is overkill, it will futureproof for sure. Not too mention, the 8700 (k) now is a really good chip. If you are doing CPU intensive tasks,s do consider Ryzen as well.

Considering you are not keeping a strict budget, I am giving Four builds, Ryzen and Intel with a 1060 and Ryzen and Intel with 1070. All CPU's are 8700 (k) or 7 1700 (x).

1060:

Intel -
PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/rwY9J8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/rwY9J8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor (£292.80 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U14S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£56.81 @ Novatech)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£89.98 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£149.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£59.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB AMP! Edition Video Card (£269.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£43.23 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£81.99 @ Ebuyer)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£82.72 @ More Computers)
Total: £1163.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-27 14:33 BST+0100

Ryzen -

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zspHhy
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zspHhy/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor (£235.20 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U14S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£56.81 @ Novatech)
Motherboard: MSI - X370 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard (£89.98 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£149.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£59.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB AMP! Edition Video Card (£269.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£43.23 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£81.99 @ Ebuyer)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£82.72 @ More Computers)
Total: £1105.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-27 14:35 BST+0100

1070 -
Intel -
PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/mcxsZR
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/mcxsZR/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor (£292.80 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U14S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£56.81 @ Novatech)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£89.98 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£149.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£59.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Video Card (£426.00 @ Aria PC)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£43.23 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Corsair - CSM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£72.14 @ Aria PC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£82.72 @ More Computers)
Total: £1309.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-27 14:36 BST+0100

Ryzen -
PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/tDjZRJ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/tDjZRJ/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor (£235.20 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U14S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£56.81 @ Novatech)
Motherboard: MSI - X370 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard (£89.98 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£149.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£59.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Video Card (£426.00 @ Aria PC)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£43.23 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Corsair - CSM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£72.14 @ Aria PC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£82.72 @ More Computers)
Total: £1252.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-27 14:37 BST+0100

Just ideas for you to develop on.

No worries, good luck. Do not feel pressured to build it yourself if you are seriously doubtful, try to find someone to build it for you. Don't want to mess up the new rig. As usual, the other knowns go too, if something more urgent is popping up, ditch the PC for now, that takes importance.

Good Luck!

When building a completely new gaming PC, it's quite practical to think first about how many years you'll use it, weighed against the current pricing scenario.

IMO if he has anything at all currently to hold off with, even a console, it makes sense to wait for better GPU pricing. The GPU availability and prices have gotten a bit better in the last month or so, but I also just heard straight from an Nvidia tech support person that none of the 1000 series GPUs are at EOL status, as many blogs have claimed. Normally I don't assume Nvidia tech support staff are correct about a lot of things, but this guy was way more informed on the latest blog rumors vs Nvidia's own in house statements than most I've talked to.

The fact is Nvidia doesn't even need to make or release the new model gaming GPUs until AMD is at or close to releasing something competitive, so it makes sense they keep having 1000 series chips manufactured. The mining values are declining, and memory becoming more available.

Despite Nvidia saying this problem could continue through Q3 this year, we've already seen prices and stock get better. My guess is if rumors are true of AMD's Navi releasing late this year, Nvidia will have something ready to make sure they stay ahead of the game. This likely means Black Friday will be an opportune time to see both Nvidia and AMD product, to make a more informed decision on what your most expensive component will be for the next 3 or more years. THAT is more important than several months of waiting.

In my conversation with the Nvidia tech I told him flat out I am not impressed with Nvidia's drivers lately, or including RTW at a time when such elite features are not practical financially or realistically in what games will likely have. There's only ONE title so far claiming to support it, and Nvidia themselves have stated this is mostly for developers at this stage of the game, and will possibly take years before it's practical for consumers.

Sure Nvidia has great hardware, no disputing that, but with that performance superiority they've become complacent on quality of drivers. They lazily piggy back onto MS' HDR, which is very broken. They tell players to roll back drivers with the launch of games like Gears of War 4 due to freeze crashes, and seem to think most of their customers are OK with swapping drivers for lots of games they play. I NEVER have to swap drivers back and forth with my AMD GPU, and it's been running well for 5 and a half years now.

I am much more inclined to wait until the end of the year on my GPU upgrade now that I know Nvidia's 1000 series is not EOL, but much of that is because I really am not sure I even want to go Nvidia. Here's hoping AMD's Navi will be as big a leap from Vega as Ryzen was from Bulldozer. Even if I don't go AMD, at least if Navi is quite an improvement it will bring needed competition back to the GPU market.

If you really are content to wait until Black Friday, there's no sense deciding on parts now. Prices could be quite a bit different by then, allowing you to afford better parts.