Geeting low FPS in League of legends with Q6600 than E5500

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6rumman

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Hi, I am just an online gamer who just play League of legends and hearthstone.

So i have 2 CPU

1-Inter core 2 quad Q6600
2-Intel duel core E5500

Motherboard -gigabyte g41 combo
RAM- 8 gb ddr3
GPU-Gigabyte 1050ti OC

here is my problem

I didnt had this GPU until recently.when i only played League of legends with no gpu I used to get more FPS with my q6600(around 40).with E5500 i got around 20.

I bought the GPU this week.With q6600+1050ti i get 35 FPS with ultra settings in LOL.and a lot of lag.kinda frame skip,but with E5500+1050ti i get 60 fps in ultra settings and its playable,no lag.but when i switch to single player games like Witcher 3 or rise of the tomb raider i get more fps with q6600.unplayable with e5500.

my question is why i am getting more fps in single player game, low fps with multiplayer game with q6600 and more fps in multiplayer game low fps in single player game with e5500.

 
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It really doesn't matter what Afterburner says, as any odd numbers like that are from using the wrong method to read the sensor or the algorithm interpreting things wrong when it goes off-scale. It's the internal sensor that matters, because that's what throttles the CPU to as low as 200MHz to prevent it going much over 100C. If the temperature continues to rise even at 200MHz, then power gets disconnected.

It's the thermal throttling that is killing your fps and causing the lag/stuttering. While 65nm quads run hot, 100C is normally not possible unless you are overvolting to >1.5v, so chances are either your cooler or its mount are simply broken, or you are trying to use a C2Q with a C2D cooler (the C2Q one is much...
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Isn't the plain and simple answer that the E5500 is 2.8 GHz processor where the Q6600 is a 2.4 GHz processor, and your game is most likely not using multiple cores.

So you've added cores, but reduced processing speed [per core]. Plus I think the E5500 is a newer architecture also.
 
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LoL can only use up to 2 threads so a dual-core does not limit performance, and clock speed is everything. The 2.8GHz E5500 would thus be faster than a 2.4GHz Q6600.

Both Witcher 3 and RoTR are well known to be able to use even more than 4 threads, so would be able to put the extra cores in the Q6600 to good use by multithreading.

The video card driver itself also requires some CPU power to run, and while nVidia generally requires less than AMD, any new card is naturally going to have far more overhead than an old one (so performance may be bottlenecked by a particularly slow CPU).

I suggest overclocking the Q6600 to 3.0GHz by simply raising the FSB from 266 to 333. While the G41 chipset is known to be a terrible overclocker with a hard FSB wall of ~340 (which would give you 3.06GHz), at least this should improve performance over the E5500 under all situations. It may require a small increase in CPU voltage but no other changes. Note that this FSB can be fully saturated by even a single channel of DDR3-1333 so your dual-channel setup is more than sufficient.
 
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6rumman

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I tried to OC the q6600 to 3.02Ghz.but it is not stable.after 4-8 min system shuts down.also the q6600 is too old.it has heat problem.in 100% usage the temp goes to 100c and in msi afterburner it says 52912313c so i guess i just have to stick with e5500 and no witcher 3 :/
sad me
thanks guys.it was my first time posting here so... sorry for my mistakes :)
 
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I'd deal with the heat problem. What kind of heatsink/fan are you using with the 6600? Also, you don't have to overclock it to 3ghz, 2.7 or 2.8ghz might turn out to be enough. The idea is to fix the heat issue, then slowly overclock it a bit at a time until you find your best possible overclock. Don't try a maximum overclock from the start.
 
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A 45nm C2Q would use some 30w less than the Q6600, but 100C at stock speeds sounds like a heatsink attachment problem. In fact thermal throttling is far more likely to explain the observed severe loss of FPS than 400MHz of clock.

As you've already got the 1050Ti, a newer CPU to better use it isn't terribly expensive. The Gigabyte GA-G41M-Combo is on the compatibility list for S771 Xeons, so you could get a modded chip like this X5460 or this x5450 for about half the price of a Q9650. The stock speed for those is at least 3GHz.
 
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6rumman

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No...no buying new things.I will get new pc after november.this is for now.

About the heat problem i dont use stock cooler,but i dont use branded cooler either.
i use this picture (sry cant find product info)
with this cooler the duel core stays cool (right now core0 42c;core1 34c) and even after oced e5500 to 3 ghz it stays under 50c. i changed the cooler last year after seeing that temp of 6600 but cooler doesnt help.

so should i leave the 6600 or can anyone help with the heat.i really want to play origin and continue league :(
 
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6rumman

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i dont use any branded cooler i use this
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Link_of_picturewhich helps my duel core to stay under 40c in idle.i oced 5500 to 3 ghz and in game (100% cpu usage) it stay under 50c

i will try to oc the 6600 to 2.8 ghz now.will reply what happens
 
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6rumman

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So here is my Update
I OCed the q6600 to 2.8ghz and it seems stable :)
LOL is playable even tho the frame skip is still there but the but its less.I can play.

but as i said before q6600 has heat issue.I wonder anyone can solve it

here is 2 ss of RoTR i took after oced to 2.8Ghz




(finger crossed)
 
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6rumman

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Update 2

with q6600 i am getting same fps as duel core but after 30 min of playing i started to get frameskip.

so unless anyone can help with the heat which i think is not solvable i am gonna use the duel core cause i need to continue league for rank.

sad me again :'(
 
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If heat is building up in the case because of poor airflow, try running it with the side panel off. Old systems with the memory controller in the northbridge should also have a spare case fan pointed at its heatsink, because your 82G41 chip uses an astonishing 25w by itself. If the case stays open, you could even use a desk fan.

Often the fan headers won't supply the full 12v even if PWM or voltage ramping is disabled. In that case a molex-to-3-pin adapter would provide faster fan speeds. Or if you can replace the fan on your heatsink, consider a more powerful fan.

A new cheap cooler would solve the issue for sure, and this one appears to give you the most heatpipes for the money. If you want to be able to carry the cooler over to a later system, some of them can even be used on socket AM4.
 
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6rumman

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my case is wide open.i even tried desk fan but no help.I will think of buying the cooler.

but what about the 429xxxxxxxxC temp when the cpu use 95%+
 
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It really doesn't matter what Afterburner says, as any odd numbers like that are from using the wrong method to read the sensor or the algorithm interpreting things wrong when it goes off-scale. It's the internal sensor that matters, because that's what throttles the CPU to as low as 200MHz to prevent it going much over 100C. If the temperature continues to rise even at 200MHz, then power gets disconnected.

It's the thermal throttling that is killing your fps and causing the lag/stuttering. While 65nm quads run hot, 100C is normally not possible unless you are overvolting to >1.5v, so chances are either your cooler or its mount are simply broken, or you are trying to use a C2Q with a C2D cooler (the C2Q one is much taller and has a copper core). A 65nm dual would use half the power but you actually have a 45nm dual which, despite the identical 65w TDP rating, can only draw 36w max. 1/3rd the power and heat appears to be something even your cooler can still handle.

At 3.06GHz a Q6600 uses about 115w max so you need a cooler that can dissipate at least that much. A C2D cooler would need much more than a desk fan to do this--a 200mph leaf blower would probably suffice.
 
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