Need Help Choosing Parts For My First Pc

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I’m Building a Pc that is mainly going to be used for Gaming. I am a first time builder that just wanted some advice, my budget is around £1000 . I also put this together and wanted to see if it’s 100% compatible and if it can be improved?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Fw8CbX

14 Y/O
 
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All these builds are £1100 or more.

I5 8400,ssd,16th ram & a 1070 for a touch under £1k.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor (£143.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£96.97 @ Box Limited)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£149.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£53.58 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Video Card (£426.00 @ Aria PC)...

Joe_182

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What type of gaming do you do? Like type of games and also what resolution? 1080p, 1440, 4k? That will greatly change what your rig will need.

Right off the bat though, i would budget for a SSD. It will greatly affect your rigs overall performance. Doesn't have to be huge for your OS, some games and programs. Use another HDD for everything else.

 

Jamie_69

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor (£158.00 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - PURE ROCK 51.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.00 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (£70.98 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£77.76 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£102.00 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Dual Video Card (£454.80 @ Aria PC)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£55.46 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£79.59 @ Box Limited)
Total: £1058.58
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-01 17:52 BST+0100

I've changed a few items for you to lower the price, this allowed for either an SSD or an upgrade to 16GB of RAM. I've gone for the SSD here due to how cheap the 850 is in the uk right now, but it's something to think about. Also changed to a much higher quality power supply, the masterwatt has 85C teapo caps which may not be that great for longevity in a high power gaming rig.

- also you could put the little extra saved to another fan. move the one that comes preinstalled in the top to the front for 2 front intakes.
 
Apr 1, 2018
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I would like to play games like rainbow 6,fortnite,PUBG And a few others really they vary a lot and I will probably be playing at 1080p also how big of a ssd would you say?
 
Apr 1, 2018
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Thanks Jamie , I will think about what you have changed as you have made it a lot cheaper. You also got an ssd in there as well. Although I like what you have done I am trying to make it a Red/Black PC as My whole setup consists of it. (Don’t mean to sound annoying)
 
You could probably build as is.
But I would change a few things:

1. A single ram stick will run in slower single channel mode.
Do not think you can add another later, it will not be supported; ram must be matched in a kit.
I suggest you up your budget and buy a 2 x 8gb kit up front.
Also, ryzen is picky with ram. Verify compatibility; check the motherboard ram QVL list or the ram vendors support list.

2.
I will never again build without a ssd for the "C" drive. It makes everything you do much quicker.
120gb is minimum, it will hold the os and a handful of games.
But, many things default to the "C" drive.
When a SSD nears full, it will lose performance and endurance.
240gb is the recommended minimum.

If you can go 240gb, or 500gb you may never need a hard drive.

You can defer on the hard drive unless you need to store large files such as video's.
It is easy to add a hard drive later.

Samsung EVO is a good choice for performance and reliability.

3. Coolermaster PSU quality is iffy. 550w is fine. Look for the Seasonic focus line.

4. I would avoid a liquid cooler if you do not need it.
scythe kotetsu will be quieter and cheaper and still do the job.
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Just my opinion:

For your type of games, I would favor a intel 8th gen processor which has some 20% better performance per thread.
Ryzen is good for multithreaded apps, but only so so for games.
Most games will effectively only use 2-3 threads, not the 12 threads the 1600x has.
I would pick a slightly more expensive Intel I5-8600K with 6 fast threads.
Most any Z370 motherboard will do.

My canned rant on liquid cooling:
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You buy a liquid cooler to be able to extract an extra multiplier or two out of your OC.
How much do you really need?
I do not much like all in one liquid coolers when a good air cooler like a Noctua or phanteks can do the job just as well.
A liquid cooler will be expensive, noisy, less reliable, and will not cool any better
in a well ventilated case.
Liquid cooling is really air cooling, it just puts the heat exchange in a different place.
The orientation of the radiator will cause a problem.
If you orient it to take in cool air from the outside, you will cool the cpu better, but the hot air then circulates inside the case heating up the graphics card and motherboard.
If you orient it to exhaust(which I think is better) , then your cpu cooling will be less effective because it uses pre heated case air.
Past that, A AIO radiator complicates creating a positive pressure filtered cooling setup which can keep your parts clean.
And... I have read too many tales of woe when a liquid cooler leaks.
Google for AIO leaks to see what can happen.
While unlikely, leaks do happen.

I would support an AIO cooler primarily in a space restricted case.
If one puts looks over function, that is a personal thing; not for me though.
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Your pc will be quieter, more reliable, and will be cooled equally well with a decent air cooler.



 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor (£128.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£70.00 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£177.59 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£102.00 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Dual Video Card (£454.80 @ Aria PC)
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£40.06 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£81.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1091.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-01 18:41 BST+0100
 

Jamie_69

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I guess you could use one of these... (ryzen doesn't need a lot of cooling power)
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/raijintek-leto-pro-rgb-led-slim-120mm-cpu-cooler-hs-02p-rt.html
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these hide the silver fins with a black top plate and would look quite nice in your scheme with a couple of the black 'fins' painted red.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cryorig-m9a-single-tower-heatsink-for-amd-hs-00b-cy.html
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cryorig-h7-single-tower-heatsink-with-120mm-fan-hs-008-cy.html
 

Joe_182

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The fact you game in 1080p means you can get away with much less power than say 4k. You will be able to run many games at Ultra 60 FPS on a 1080p monitor with even the GTX 1070. The Ti if you can get a good deal go for it, but if the 1070 is much cheaper, i would get the 1070.

As for SSD a 250Gb is plenty for your OS and programs. You won't regret this i promise.

I would go for 16Gb of Ram as well if possible, but you can start with 8gb and always upgrade later. This is the one piece of hardware that is really easy to upgrade later on, and this would save you $100 off the price below.

And finally that PSU is not good, go for an EVGA or Corsair. I put the EVGA G2 but you could probably get something cheaper like a Corsair CX550

I also don't like water cooling, so i changed to a good air cooler.

I made a list here, but it is a little bit higher than your budget. But the parts are quality and shouldn't give you issues, and with deals and rebates you could do even better. I don't like AMD myself. So i changed the list to an I5-8600k or an 8400.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor (£206.39 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£34.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£89.98 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£173.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£81.54 @ Novatech)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card (£473.99 @ Aria PC)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£55.46 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£86.49 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1202.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-01 18:56 BST+0100

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor (£143.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£34.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£89.98 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£173.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£81.54 @ Novatech)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card (£473.99 @ Aria PC)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£55.46 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£67.79 @ Alza)
Total: £1121.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-01 19:09 BST+0100

 
Apr 1, 2018
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Thanks Geofelt it helped a lot I will most definitely be getting a ssd (240) including a hard drive (1TB) and are there any coolers that are compatible with the build I have done which you would recommend as I no longer want a water cooled one after reading what you posted.
 
All these builds are £1100 or more.

I5 8400,ssd,16th ram & a 1070 for a touch under £1k.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor (£143.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£96.97 @ Box Limited)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£149.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£53.58 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Video Card (£426.00 @ Aria PC)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£43.47 @ Ebuyer)
Other: Corsair CP-9020102-UK CX Series CX550M ATX/EPS Semi-Modular 81 Plus Bronze 550 W Power Supply Unit (£48.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £998.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-01 19:00 BST+0100
 
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@Jamie_69 - that leto rgb is looking kind of nice.
May have to grab one for testing.

Edit - quite an immense little cooler for £35 by the look of it.

http://www.enostech.com/raijintek-leto-pro-rgb-cpu-cooler-review/

Zero ram interference, very good performance & aesthetically it's wonderful looking imo.
 
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Thank you, Hope I don’t balls it up, but hey there’s a first time for everything right?

Anyway still got a bit of saving till I can give it a go soo we shall see :)

(I’ll get back to you if I need help)