How Do I have a SSD and HDD in the same pc

jamtube47

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Ok so I have a HDD and i now want to add a SSD. What do I do. Do I just put the ssd in the pc and then drag the games and other things I want to be in the SSD so they have a faster boot up. Is this all i do? People told me to like install all of these things. I really dont know. Can you please teach me how to install a ssd please.
 

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first of all you need a 2.5" bracket to install it not a 3.5", if your case is modern, it should have, if not it's very cheap to buy, you just use a screw driver to screw into the bracket and slide the bracket into the partition, connect the ssd to your mobo, once you open up, mash delete to enter bios and make sure that drive is not on top of boot priorities, once done and booted into windows, enter control panel and search for manage hard disk partitions, you'll open a program called disk manager, you'll find your SSD with unallocated space, create a new drive using this space, and you're done, you can move files over, however if you want to install windows on that SSD, which I would recommend, backup everything you need and do a fresh install of Windows.
 
If you are booting from the HDD and want to boot instead from the SSD, then you should clone the HDD to the SSD. There are many 3rd party tools to do this, and some are free and even allow you to exclude files, in case the HDD is much larger than the SSD.

Then you should change the boot device priority in the BIOS to the SSD. After booting up and if everything works, you could format the HDD or just leave it as a bootable backup.

Alternately you could clean install Windows to the SSD as Ak74Egy suggests. Then you would need to reinstall all your programs too.

Simply moving folders only works if they are portable applications or if you edit all of the program's paths. And then you won't get the speed benefit from Windows being on the SSD.

If it's a desktop, then double-backed tape or velcro should be sufficient for any 2.5" SSD. They are quite lightweight.
 

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How much space is consumed on your current C drive?
What size/make/model SSD are you considering?
Desktop or laptop?
 

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@Ak74Egy What do you mean by " make sure that drive is not on top of boot priorities" Also what do you mean by creating a new drive? And I do want to make the SSd boot up Windows, so do I have to back up up HDD in order to do it. So do I have to get a external hard drive and back up my current HDD to the external Hard drive? And I want my SSd to have like games and apps while my HDD to have the other stuff. So do I have to clone something? I am looking at a SanDisk SSd 120 GB for a Dell 8900 pc
 

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Adding an SSD:

You want/need to have the OS and some/most applications on this drive.
Games, probably not. 120GB is pretty small.

So, you have 2 options:
1. A clean isntall of the OS on this SSD This means a reinstall of all your applications.

2. A clone operation from the old drive to the new SSD.
This requires that your current used space in the C partition be below 80GB or so. (hence my questions above)

We can go into how, when we know what, exactly, we have to work with.
 

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I still want to keep my hdd. So basically you are telling me that I have to install Os in my SSD and that will take alot of the space so I cannot add any games and apps. So I have to get a bigger GB SSD
 

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Well...a 120GB SSD will work for the OS and your applications.
That drive has about 80-85GB actual usable space.

A single current game+DLC can take 50-70-100GB or more.
The 120GB drive will not be enough.

You can, of course, install games to the HDD if you choose. And also use that HDD for all that other stuff that takes up space.
Video, music, etc.
 

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So basically the 120 GB is useless because the things that I want in the SSd are games and other apps and they wont fit in the SSD. And also, do you think I should even get an SSD? Because the only things I want in it are games like fornite and overwatch and those games load up pretty fast. Also I do not turn off my computer, idk if this is bad or not. People say it is the best, but in this situation, do you think I should get one or get 8gb ram? I already have 16 gb ram. Is getting 8gb more good? I do not do any editing, just casual web seraching and watching youtube and playing games?
 

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I purposelessly got bigger that 120 ssd because I want to have space for professional software and 1-2 bigger games or 3-4 small size games. 120 is great only for accelerate Windows boot and load speed, it really help the overall performance, but in general in the CPU and GPU that make the differences about the playing games. Buy SSD put Windows and 1-2 of your favorite games, use the HDD for the programs and documents that you don't care if they load faster or not.
 

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No its not useless.
But the general config is to have the OS and applications on the SSD, not just a game or two.

Game performance is only benefitted in loading a new level. You don't get any better FPS or similar.

Having teh OS and applications on it makes a LOT of things faster.

But, if you're going to use it as a secondary drive for games, you can if you want to.
You won't see any magical benefit, though.

Move Steam games like this:

To move an already installed game
Games library
Right click the game
Properties
Local Files
Move Install Folder
 

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By OS you mean like Windows so you can boot up quickly right and can you give me examples of applications please. And if you put games in the SSd. doesnt it mean the boot up for the games are quicker?
 

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Can you give me the steps of how to install the SSD. Like how to put Windows in the SSd to make it boot up quicker and how to put apps and games in the SSD. I know how to put the SSd in the pc, so now what do you do when you boot up the pc.
 

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OS = Windows. And its more than just "boot up time". Anything you do with the OS is also faster.
Applications = other stuff. Steam client, antivirus, web browsers, diagnostic tools, anything you click on and run

Games living on the SSD will start a couple of seconds faster. Going into a new level will probably a second or two faster.
That's about it.
 

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How, depends on exactly what you want to do.
With a 120GB SSD, that is almost certainly a clean install. Which means a reinstall of all your other applications.
You'll be starting from a clean slate, just like your current system was on Day 1.

Do you want to go down that road?
 

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If you buy Samsung or other popular brand it probably will come with migration software to copy your HDD to SSD, but that isn't great idea it often fail and in general is great to have clean installation on the ssd. Just use your installation media like USB with Windows 10 and just install it to the SSD is that easy. For apps and games it depends what you like to use. For example I use Chrome browser and I want it to load instant so in on my SSD. I use Visual Studio other similar programs and is on my SSD. I will put Adobe Premiere to use my SSD as scratch disk sometimes. For games I will put CS GO and maybe BF3 or BF4. Even just with Windows on the SSD I saw big improvement in the load speed of some games even if they are still installed on my old rusty HDD.
 

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Wait why do I have to do a clean install. Basically right now, I have a 1tb HDD and I want to put a 120 GB SSD. I will transfer something things in the HDD to the SDD to make the boot up faster like Chrome and games etc. The HDD will still be in my pc? The other apps and etc will stay in my HDD. So when I download something, it will go in the HDD unless I want it to be in the SDD. This is the ideal case. But I just dont know the steps. Also I am doing a clean install on my os to the Sdd, will this make windows boot up in my SDD for faster boot up. Also everything that was in my HDD will still be there right?
 

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As said...if you want the OS on your new SSD, you don't have a lot of choices.
Clean install.

If you just want it as a secondary drive, with a game or two on it...then you can do that if you wish.
But that is really missing out most of the benefit of having the SSD.

You're misuing the word "boot". Generally that refers to starting up the PC and OS. Not an application or game.

A game that is installed on the SSD will start up a bit faster. That's about it.
See the steps I listed above for how to move a Steam game to that drive. You can't just drag n drop.
 

jamtube47

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So basically, people mostly put os, Windows, on SSD. This will make the pc boot up quicker. How do you put the OS in the new SSD. Will my old HDD data and everything in the HDD will gone?