Should I use old CPU stock cooler

zafrknat · Apr 7, 2018

I have a Dell Inspiton 560 computer and everything stock that came with it. Im replacing most of the internal parts, but I dont know if I should replace the CPU cooler as well. My current cpu is a Pentium (Dual-Core) E5800 3.2 Ghz (which I believe consumes 65w) and I have the stock cooler that came with it. It is a LGA 775 socket. The cpu I'm planning to buy is a Core i5-650 which consumes 75W and it is a LGA 1156 socket. Would the old cooler work on the new cpu?

I'm also buying the Intel DQ57TM motherboard so i dont know if the cooler holes will fit the holes on the motherboard.

help would be much appreciated.

thank you.

Wolfshadw · Apr 7, 2018

The old cooler may or may not fit the motherboard mounts. Doesn't the I5-650 you're buying come with one? If not, I'd probably purchase a new cooler anyway.

-Wolf sends

zafrknat · Apr 7, 2018

Wolfshadw :

It doesnt come with a cooler since im buying it used.
Would you reccomend me any coolers that would fit in my mini tower and are good for the core i5-650 lga 1156 socket. If its possible in the 20-30 dollar range (if you have any in mind)

Btw wolf youre a legend you helped me with my windows install...

Wolfshadw · Apr 7, 2018

Unfortunately, I don't know how much space you have for mounting a cooler. If I read the specs right for your Dell Inspiron 560, the case width is only 6.9 inches and the coolers I'd recommend (Cryorig and Cooler Master Hyper) in your price range are all over 6 inches in height. No idea if they'd fit.

-Wolf sends

Btw wolf youre a legend you helped me with my windows install...

Just shows that I'm always here and have no other life.

zafrknat · Apr 8, 2018

Wolfshadw :

The distance from the cpu to the side panel of the case is a little less than 6 inches I believe. I should ask, are all cooler ports on the motherboard universal (will all coolers attach to the motherboard cable-wise)?.

It's all good, at least you're helping people lol.

Wolfshadw · Apr 8, 2018

I think so, but I'm not sure. Some coolers have 4-pin cables for the fan and the motherboard only has a 3-pin connection, but I think that fourth pin is for fan speed control. Just to be safe, if your motherboard has a three-pin CPU_FAN connection, I'd probably look at coolers that have a three-pin power connector. If the motherboard has a four-pin CPU_FAN connection, yada, yada, yada...

-Wolf sends

zafrknat · Apr 8, 2018

Wolfshadw :

Oh gotcha. My motherboard has a 4-pin port so I'm going with 4 pins. Now i think my last question would be the actual hole distance. Do all coolers fit universally on the actual screw holes. I know some are adjustable but there are some that aren't. I wasn't able to find the exact distance from one hole to another in the manual for my motherboard, so I'm not sure what exactly to do when shopping for a new cooler. What does it mean when it says it's compatible with LGA 1156, 1155 etc. etc.? Does that mean that it'll fit the screw holes or something else? Also how exactly do I know that my cooler will actually be enough for the CPU that I'm trying to cool. Are there some numbers that I should be looking at?

Wolfshadw · Apr 8, 2018

If it fit your case, this is the cooler I would recommend: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

If you look under the Specs page, you'll see that it lists a large number of motherboard sockets that it's compatible with. This means that either the cooler mounting holes are identical among the different CPU sockets or that the mounting frame of the cooler is adjustable to match whatever CPU socket it supports.

As for cooling capacity, as far as I know, every cooler on the market can properly cool any CPU that fits in the CPU socket the cooler was designed for. This is where you need to look at reviews and ratings.

-Wolf sends

zafrknat · Apr 8, 2018

Wolfshadw :

That cooler is a bit too big for my mini-tower lol. I think my tower is about 5 inches now that I measured it again.

http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00003031

http://www.cryorig.com/m9_us.php

what do you think of these?

or is it better if I use one of those lower ones that have the heatsink first and then the cooler on top of them (http://prntscr.com/j2jotc like this)

Wolfshadw · Apr 8, 2018

At 124.6mm (4.9in), I'd say the Cryorig M9 would be your better option.

-Wolf sends

zafrknat · Apr 8, 2018

Wolfshadw :

Thanks brother.

is there something wrong with using one of these though (http://prntscr.com/j2jotc)?

Wolfshadw · Apr 8, 2018

No. Those types of coolers are more akin to the stock coolers that come with Intel and AMD processors. Both systems that I have running 24/7 are using those types of coolers (stock coolers in fact).

-Wolf sends

zafrknat · Apr 8, 2018

Wolfshadw :

Nice. Which type would you recommend?

Wolfshadw · Apr 8, 2018

Either will work. The stock-like coolers are sure to fit within your case. I'd probably opt for one of those.

-Wolf sends

zafrknat · Apr 8, 2018

Wolfshadw :

Yeah I would too. Thank you you've helped me a ton!

zafrknat · Apr 9, 2018

Wolfshadw :

https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Cooler-Heatsink-LGA1156-FAN1156PWM/dp/B006K25OE4

what do you think of this one? will it fit and work?

Wolfshadw · Apr 9, 2018

It's socket 1156 which is the same as your motherboard, so no worries there. At 2.2 incheck, it should easily fit within the case as well. Personal thoughts would be that it's probably not much, if any, better than the stock cooler, but that's not the issue. You should be good to go with that cooler.

-Wolf sends

zafrknat · Apr 9, 2018

Wolfshadw :

Should I use this then (the stock cooler) since it's amazingly cheaper?
https://www.amazon.com/Connector-Aluminum-Heatsink-Desktop-Computer/dp/B00NXZN0HY

(is that a thermal pad at the bottom part of the heatsink on the second picture. if so, what do i do with it?)

Wolfshadw · Apr 9, 2018

It's your budget. That's up to you. I would say that while I have never even attempted to overclock my CPUs, I've only used one third party CPU cooler (which failed).

That second image looks like it just has thermal paste pre-applied. Given that it's used, I would not expect it to actually be there (though you do need thermal paste).

-Wolf sends

zafrknat · Apr 9, 2018

Wolfshadw :

That one is new, at least it says new lol. But yeah I will apply thermal paste to it (noctua nt-h1)

Karadjgne · Apr 9, 2018

CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler ($17.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)

The problem with many of those uber-cheap cpu coolers is their ability to cool. To get the price that low, they use substandard grade aluminium, including core material (instead of copper core like many intel/amd stock coolers), the fan is the cheapest possible to buy, which gives a large indication of its expected performance, volume, longevity etc. Even on ebay, stock coolers generally go for @$10-$15, so how a new retail cooler can sell for less than $10 after paying Amazon to host/post/sell it, should be a dead giveaway that it's really a $5 cooler, and thats all it's really worth.

The Cryorig m9i has one of the best mounting systems in the business and for its size is basically untouchable for value/performance. It's also warranteed and guaranteed. For the $8 difference it's well worth the price.

zafrknat · Apr 9, 2018

Karadjgne :

So you would recommend me the Cryorig m9i? The $8 isn't a problem, I was only concerned if it will physically fit in my case, which looks like it has about 5 inches from the CPU to the side panel (Dell Inspiron 560).

Karadjgne · Apr 10, 2018

Well the m9i is 124.6mm tall. 5" = 127mm, so if the space is anything over 5", there's plenty of room. If it's exactly 5", there's still clearance. If it's just under 5", the cooler won't fit. So you'll need a more exact measurement. With most cases having @20-25mm of space in the rear, plus case thickness, plus standoffs, plus mobo/socket hight, even if the entire thing was little over 1.5" used, with a 6.9" case, that's still 5.4" clearance. It's easy to figure out, just drop something straight across the case and measure from the cpu to the straight edge.

Anything more than 5" and you are good.

zafrknat · Apr 10, 2018

Karadjgne :

The cooler is 124.6 measured from the base of the motherboard (screws) all the way to the end?
Measuring my case from the base of the MB I believe it has about 13-14 cm which is 130-140 mm.

This is the setup. Do you think there's enough room for it (length-wise and width-wise too)?
http://prntscr.com/j3iaat

http://prntscr.com/j3iafz

Karadjgne · Apr 10, 2018

If you lay the case down on its side, the 125mm would be the height from the top of the cpu to the inside of the case side that's removed. Not from the mobo itself. But thats 12.5cm and you are measuring 13-14cm (130-140mm). With the socket only sticking up @5mm from the mobo, that's right around 130mm by your measurement.

There's plenty of space in every direction for the cooler, the only question being height.

Don't feel bad, it's like pulling teeth just trying to find the cpu cooler clearance on many aftermarket cases, that'll include every stupid statistic except the one ppl most need.

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