How many watt's can I pull rhrough my 4 eps header

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I have a chieftec psu how many watts can it deliver through the 4 pin cpu header?
Dc output:5v 16A
3.3v 17A
12v 34A
-12v .3A
5vsb 2.5A.
It's a 450w psu.
 
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You must have missed the part above where I mentioned low voltage wiring and amperage. Crimp a butt connector on it just as if you were working on car stereo or alarm wiring.
Both the mini-fit jr connector (when in 2x2 configuration) and 18ga wire are rated to 10A per wire or pin. As that's 10A per yellow +12v (and also 10A per black gnd), that equals 120w per pair or 240w total safely.

If you look inside the Chieftec, all yellow wires are run to a common location, so there's nothing actually limiting things to 240w. Pulling all 34A through the CPU line may start to melt the connector and wires, but the PSU will not shut down because as far as it's concerned, it's running within design specs.

If your question is how much power can be pulled before it shuts itself off, then that is something that can only be answered by testing to destruction. And would only be valid for your particular sample (manufacturing tolerances, you know).
 
Just cut the 8-pin EPS string off a dead PSU and either solder the whole thing into your PSU, or splice your 4-pin to it, plus two additional yellow +12v wires and two grounds from an unused PCIe string. 2x4 configuration is derated to 7A per pair due to concentration of heat, so 336w total. While they do sell new connectors and pins, it's probably less trouble to scavenge the parts, especially since it's only for an old 450w supply anyway.

If your board only has a 4-pin with unpopulated holes for an 8-pin, or you have already burned the 4-pin connector, then soldering the wires directly to the motherboard would provide the lowest resistance and most reliable connection, but would sure make changing the PSU later more difficult.

With low voltage wiring you don't have to worry about arcing, but must be very concerned with resistance and overheating because of how many amps it takes to get any kind of reasonable wattage. Overheating the connector anneals the pins soft to make them looser, and a poor connection is a high resistance one so gets hot. This cycle continues until the connector catches on fire.

You may think that 240w (192w if 20ga wire) should be plenty for today's 95w TDP CPUs. However as things age, particularly if the connectors have been through many mating cycles, resistance can increase to the point that the plug melts and this is much more likely to occur with a 4-pin than a less stressed 8-pin. The 8-pin is often selected by motherboard manufacturers just to reduce RMA rates. Note that just like PCIe power connectors, the CPU power plug is only rated for 50 mating cycles.
 

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Could I saw a 4pin header in half and switch it up so it is like an 8 pin's other half?

Oh and I don't have a dead psu nor one that has an 8 pin header that's why I thought that repurposing an other 4 pin would be a good idea.
 

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Is there a difference beetween an orange and a yellow cable or is it just an indicator of their voltage?


 
If you have two 4-pin P4 connectors, then I suppose you could modify one to fit in the other half, but most PSUs with a 4+4 are already designed to plug directly into an 8-pin EPS.

Orange is 3.3v, Red is 5v, Yellow is 12v. Nothing worse than those modern supplies where all the wires are black to look cool.
 

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I mean I know that it connects to a different spot so it has a different voltage but is the csble the same?
 

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So I need to solder but don't need the best of the best isolation.Correct?
Sorry I'm new to this and not english so could you explain what a but connector is or is the above mentoined method is good.