4 Year old gaming rig. Need some consultation!

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yogaadiputrap

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Hello everyone!

I'm thinking of upgrading my gaming PC since it has been 4 years since I've bought it. Here is my current PC specs:

Operating System: Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
Processor: AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor
Memory: 16GB RAM (V-Gen DDR3 8GB PC12800 x2)
Graphics Card: ASUS GTX 1050Ti 4GB OC CERBERUS DDR5 DUAL FAN
Display Monitor: LED LG 25UM58-P 25" 60hz (2560 x 1080)
Mother Board: Asrock 970 Pro3
Storage: Toshiba DT01ACA100
Keyboard: Razer Deathstalker Essential
Mouse: Razer Deathadder
Headset: Logitech LG230 (2013 edition)

I know that some of these components are fairly outdated, so I would appreciate if you could tell me what I need to upgrade so that I can at least play all current games at 45 FPS :D

For your information, I have just upgraded the Monitor, the Graphics Card to a GTX 1050 and the Memory to 16 GB RAM last week, so I think I won't be changing them. Although, I have been eyeing to change my processor if there are better budget ones out in the market.

Since I can't really afford really high-end stuff, so I would say that my overall budget is around is 700$.

Thanks!
 
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Would help to know what country we are talking about here, to make better choices for you. That 1050ti isn't a horrible card, but it might hold you back some. The GTX 1060 6gb is starting to come down in price, but still well over MSRP.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($178.90 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - B360 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($98.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Mini Video Card ($319.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $762.76
Prices include shipping, taxes...
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You made a bad move, anything running DDR3 is obsolete so not a good upgrade option. To move to any modern platform will require buying DDR4 RAM.

Good gaming cpu’s that have great performance for the price are the i5 8400 or Ryzen 1600. Match these with 16gb DDR4 and compatible motherboard and you will have a great pairing with your 1050Ti with lots of headroom for the next few years.
 
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AT the resolution you're running, the 1050Ti could well be holding things back. The GTX 1060 is considered the "max details at 1920x1080@60Hz" graphics card, as are the RX 570 and RX 580 from AMD. You might need to turn the details down a little bit for them to deal with the extra pixels.

On the other hand, my son's system (Skylake i5, 8GB RAM, running 2560x1080 resolution) seems to handle what he needs just fine. He's using an R9 285 video card, but he plays mostly older games. The "newest" game he plays is Rainbow Six Siege, but on his card, it wavers between about 45-60fps, though I think he's turned the details down to medium overall.

If you were to upgrade that card, the CPU might then become the limiting factor, or might not. It's performance is probably in the ballpark of the Sandy Bridge chips from Intel, so I guess it would depend on which games you're playing.

There's no real room for any further upgrades on the AM3 platform. If you were to upgrade, it would be to go to a modern Intel, or to an AMD Ryzen based platform. Either would require a new motherboard, and DDR4 RAM.

To be certain, it couldn't hurt to check CPU and GPU usage while gaming. See which one is pegging at 100%. That's your weak link.

Also, take a look at the GPU Hierarchy Chart (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html) to get an idea of how different video cards perform relative to each other.
 
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yogaadiputrap

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Thanks for your answers guys, really helpful and fast!

Yea I could call myself a beginner at PC building, I bought this rig for myself as a whole package 4 years ago and I have little knowledge on it.

So from what all of you are saying is that since my motherboard is very outdated, the only way for me to get a proper upgrade for current games is to change it and the RAM right? If so, which motherboard(s) would you suggest to me?

if this is the case, I'm fine with exceeding my 700$ budget. I can still sell the components for a sum of money in my country since sadly not many people are able to afford current gen gear and prefer sticking to budget ones.
 
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$700 (assuming you referring to usd, you should be fine even with CAD)is enough for a 8400/B360 /16gb ddr4, or a 1600, b350/16 gb ddr 4( you may want to wait few weeks to see how well the new ryzen cpu are performing) and you definitely don’t need to replace every thing, Just mobo/cpu/ram. Your graphic card is fine, I don’t recommend you spend like $400-$500 just to get a 1060 6gb. It’s reaching the end of its product life cycle, just wait for the new cards either end of this year or early next year.
 
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Would help to know what country we are talking about here, to make better choices for you. That 1050ti isn't a horrible card, but it might hold you back some. The GTX 1060 6gb is starting to come down in price, but still well over MSRP.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($178.90 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - B360 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($98.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Mini Video Card ($319.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $762.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-09 10:14 EDT-0400


If you want to stick with the 1050ti, for awhile, but have a solid setup for future cards.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor ($346.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: RAIJINTEK - EreBoss 56.5 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($133.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $677.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-09 10:19 EDT-0400


 
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yogaadiputrap

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I live in Indonesia and I was referring to USD when I was using the dollar sign, i'm aware that the Indonesian currency is not well known and I should have precised it that i meant US dollars :D

logainofhades, will the change be significant if I choose to upgrade my PC following the second specs you gave me? Because 677 USD is quite a large sum for me here in Indonesia, and I don't want to invest in something that I'm not certain of.
 
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CPU side, the difference would be massive, vs your current FX. To be fair, even the 8400 would be. You could step down to an 8600k, which is still a very good CPU, and should be for awhile, if the price is of concern.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($237.69 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: RAIJINTEK - EreBoss 56.5 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($133.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $568.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-09 10:43 EDT-0400



You could go even cheaper, with a Ryzen 5 1600. Far better than any FX CPU, and still quite capable gaming chip. Ryzen 2 is coming soon, and are supposed to be a drop in upgrade, after bios update. Don't really need the cooler, but it will be useful for overclocking.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($172.63 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool - GAMMAXX 400 White 74.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($36.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $449.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-09 10:49 EDT-0400
 
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yogaadiputrap

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Personally, I think I'll be going with the $677.87 Specs. It is quite a big investment, but at least it will be a solid setup for future cards.

Hopefully I will be able to sell my newly-bought DDR3 RAM Memories fast :D

Thanks for all your help guys, really appreciate it.
 
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