ADSL cable (RJ11 male to male) buying advice!

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After my PC started buffering on video sites more slowly than usual (coincidentally after heavy rain) I unplugged and re-plugged the - the one connecting the router to the micro filter/BT phone socket) and for some reason the PC wasn't connecting to the internet (the internet symbol showed a yellow exclamation mark instead of the PC symbol). I unplugged and re-plugged it again and at one point it even notified me that the ethernet cable wasn't plugged in! It took a few minutes after which it connected (without me doing anything). I decided I should replace the cable, one thing is that it's longer than I need, I think it's 20 or 30 metres, which I gather can slow my internet down potentially?

I am with Origin Broadband and my average speeds are 9.8 Mbps.


Should I buy this one (I need 10m) which is a lot more expensive £9.75:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ethernet-Broadband-Quality-Connections-iCHOOSE/dp/B01M0O53OO/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1523430211&sr=8-9&keywords=rj11%2Bethernet%2Bcable&th=1

Over this one £2.24:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cabling4Less-10m-ADSL-Cable-White/dp/B000FGGE1I/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

I can't see any difference apart from price. Neither mention if they are CAT 5E or 6, and if they are 4 wires or 2: twisted pair or untwisted. Is there any way to tell? On Ebay:


£2.95:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BT-Infinity-Fibre-Broadband-ADSL-Cable-Lead-2m-3m-5m-10m-15m-20m-25m/321454310900?hash=item4ad82b85f4:m:mjpzJ7uuDMKKOHiypQwbjoQ

£7.64 but claim to be best:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10M-BT-ADSL-INFINITY-FIBRE-OPTIC-RJ11-TO-BROADBAND-MODEM-EXTENSION-CABLE-LEAD-EE/251332543890?epid=1331951893&hash=item3a84964592:g:rq8AAOSwi7RZDfVs

£2.54 and they look quite sturdy (not flat) CAT 5 26 AWG so I'm leaning towards this unless someone can advise real benefit in buying a more expensive one:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10m-High-Speed-Broadband-ADSL-RJ11-to-RJ11-Modem-Cable/380320408238?epid=2246700723&hash=item588cdce2ae:g:I3cAAOSwpvZaQh0c

Thank you
 

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Meaning that all that stuff 2 of the sellers posted are not true? There's no difference between the flat cables and the thicker looking ones? So I should just buy the cheapest? What about durability (I'm thinking of buying the one in last link)?

 

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They don't seem to exist haha, they are all described as ADSL cos you can use them as both, and the one I did find without ADSL in the description was the same price (but it did mention modem lol). I guess you're saying just buy the cheapest one, but I was hoping someone could answer my questions regarding durability at least?

 
Don't forget that the cable you're talking about is just one of the chain of cables - there're cables inside walls, connections, etc, and all this can degrade the performance.

(A)DSL performance depends a lot more of the cable(s) between your house and Telco's equipment.
 

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Now I'm really confused lol, on another forum I asked the same thing and got the opposite advice:
You need one that is sheilded as it can increase your speed: High Specification RJ11 5m Broadband Modem Lead https://www.cables4all.co.uk/high-specification-rj11-5m-broadband-modem-lead-1176-p.asp[/i]
Me: I really didn't think shielding would make any significant difference, everywhere else I've read people seem to not find any increase in speed?
The basic cable is total rubbish with very fine wire and can pick up noise which reduces speed and the low quality wire attenuation is a factor as well every time over years I have changed the cable most see an increase and less drops

My other question is that I'm getting so fed up of this intermittent slow buffering problem, I'm going to go fibre optic at the end of my contract. Would I need any different cables (such as the one I'm now replacing) for then?

 

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Could you help me understand, Are you saying I'll have a fibre optic compatible router which will need a different connector?

At the moment I have a RJ11 to RJ11 ethernet cable running from my master socket near the front door, which connects to my router in the living room (we keep the router there since it's where we use all our wireless devices, there would be 2 walls between and hence a weaker signal if I tried to keep the router at the master socket). I have heard that with fibre broadband you automatically have a 'filtered faceplate' fitted over the master socket (to take the place of a micro filter). Is that what you mean by device?

So are you saying I wouldn't be able to use a RJ11 cable? What is 'ethernet interface'? Hope someone could give me more details, thanks.
 
By the time you wrote this, Google/Bing would tell you what is RJ45, wired Ethernet, and Cat5 cable.
[uirl=https://www.bing.com/search?q=fibre%20optic%20media%20converter%20&qs=n&form=QBRE&sp=-1&pq=fibre%20optic%20media%20converter%20&sc=8-28&sk=&cvid=F077CF8C2C7F447BB02FC83736DFF1DE]Fibre optic media converter[/url] - you will have something like this provided by your ISP
Cat5e Ethernet Cable - you'll need this to between the media converter, and your router.
If you plug the RJ11 (phone) cable directly into your router, you'll need a new one with Ethernet WAN interface.

You're talking about "sockets": Unless your home is pre-wired for Ethernet, these won't be of any use.
 

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I did already know what those 3 were since it's needed for a regular broadband setup. I found this diagram which helped me a bit:
https://support.zen.co.uk/kb/Knowledgebase/Fibre-Optic-Broadband-Getting-Connected-with-the-Netgear-WNR2000-Router

So there's a different type of socket installed and cable needed which replace the phone socket and phone cable rj11, so I'm thinking it's no longer involved at that stage? What's this new cable called? I'm thinking I would have 2 choices:

1) Get 10m new type cable, to have both the media converter and router in the living room, but is this necessary? I have to keep the router in the living room due to the signal being weaker if kept at the master phone socket. So I could:

2) Get a 10m RJ45 to Rj45 cat 5e cable so I can keep the media converter at the socket, if it doesn't affect the signal/slow the connection keeping it there?