Poor Gaming Performance

Apr 11, 2018
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Why is my fps soo low in most games and I have poor gaming performance!

Specs:
CPU - AMD A8 7650k
RAM - 16GB 1600 MHZ
HDD - 1TB
GPU - AMD RX 460
OS - WIndows 10 - x64

Any suggestions to fix the problem?
 
Solution
You won't get dramatic performance improvement overclocking the chip even ignoring the issues you will encounter by doing so. With any moderate overclock you will start to overheat (at stock load you're already in single digit thermal margin) with that cooler and upgrading that will be throwing good money after bad. The motherboard makes CPU upgrading not really an option either. The CPU is slower than a Core i7 920 from 10 years ago so it naturally will hold you back in current games. Rebuilding is your best bet.

DSzymborski

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What games and what FPS? There are a lot of games and one person's poor is another person's fine. Specifics are always helpful.

If you're running older games, especially of the non AAA variety, or eSports titles, these should be playable. If you're trying to run modern AAA titles, your rig will struggle; the RX 460 is a solid-but-entry-level GPU and the 7650k is an old APU on an underwhelming platform.
 
Apr 11, 2018
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The Temps are okay but I know someone with the same cpu as me but they are able to run games like gta 5 very high settings at about 70fps where as I only get around 25 - 40 fps
 

Phaaze88

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Are you sure? That chip doesn't share the same thermal limits as Intel ones. Over 60C isn't good, with 72.4C being the max.
Also, did you mix ram or not?

Having the same cpu as someone else isn't enough to base your current level of performance...
 

jr9

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Even though I have no idea which games you are playing, resolution, your actual temps, or your detailed specs in general I'd be willing to bet the processor is your problem especially with choppy gameplay. As lazy as it sounds I'd just do a complete rebuild with a GPU upgrade later on. You have no CPU upgrade options and any decent GPU would be gimped by your CPU.

Comparing your PC to another one isn't useful unless you have the exact same specs, software, OS which is unlikely.

I'd rebuild with something like Ryzen 3 and bring the GPU over to the new system. 2200G is cheap and 70% better than what you have. You can get that, the DDR4 RAM it needs, and the motherboard for under $300 USD.
 

DSzymborski

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Not really. It's simply a very basic, older platform. The FM2+ CPUs are mostly APUs, designed for light, budget builds. If you want solid performance in AAA games, you're simply asking too much from the hardware and it's not the kind of thing that just slapping in another FM2+ keyboard would fix.
 
The max thermal limit for that cpu is 72.4c so if you are hitting 76c your system should have shut down. However older AMD CPU’s are notorious for reporting the wrong temperature outside of the BIOS, the best way is measure the thermal margin using AMD Overdrive. Can you let use know what thermal margin you have under stress testing.
 
Once you get to a certain level of processor on the FM2+ platform any better processor is really a minor improvement; it's not usually worthwhile. If memory serves the most powerful is the A10-7890k (an APU), with x4 880k the best being pure CPU.

Dropping resolution may help boost your fps (worked with my old x4 760k), but some may not like the scaling; it's a temporary measure until a new platform is financially viable. And depending on your motherboard, perhaps overclocking is an option to help boost fps a little.
 

jr9

Estimable
You won't get dramatic performance improvement overclocking the chip even ignoring the issues you will encounter by doing so. With any moderate overclock you will start to overheat (at stock load you're already in single digit thermal margin) with that cooler and upgrading that will be throwing good money after bad. The motherboard makes CPU upgrading not really an option either. The CPU is slower than a Core i7 920 from 10 years ago so it naturally will hold you back in current games. Rebuilding is your best bet.
 
Solution

JFST

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Not sure if this could be your problem but if you get stutters on several games maybe you are affected by this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/7uywsl/stuttering_fps_drops_lag_problems_probably_you/
Although this affects NVIDIA more, some AMD GPUs seems affected too (because of Windows).

No fix yet unfortunately (and don't expect one soon -or ever?-).
Again maybe this is not your problem but maybe you can get some info that helps you anyway.

Good luck.