HELP!!! PS4 vs USED GAMING PC REAL BUDGET CONFUSION!!! MAX BUDGET $400!

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arm0ghan17

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Hi everyone!
I've been through every kind of dilemma regarding pc v ps4. Finally i want a solution and u guyz can help, the only one I suppose are left.
* So, I live in Pakistan and the parts of a pc can cost 80-100$ more due to import taxes etc. So building a new Gaming rig is way out of budget.
* I thought of buying a used pc like a 3rd gen i5 or i7 or 4th gen i5. We have some real good shops that sell mint condition PCs.And pairing it with a used or new gpu like around 200$ for new or 150$ for used u know. But there came my brother scaring me that PCs can have so much problems rosen in them like ur gpu can fry etc. How'd he know? Well he himself had built quite a few in the early and mid 2000s. So suggesting me to buy a ps4 which is more reliable and no tension of setting adjustment etc.
* I got confused and pretty convinced too that I should rather buy a ps4. And play any game that gets released( ps4 in pak costs 350$ slim 500gb). A huge dilemma! Then I thought that the games can cost a lot and in back of my mind I thought that I m a pc gameR! So again I got confused. Then came jailbreak solution from ma bro. He told we could jail break. i said yes but what if everything goes wrong I mean we download games for PC thats illegal too but this is a way too big step and we could even destroy the whole console! You get cut off from the community in the first place. Still i was convinced that ps4 can do my job.
* Then came ma friend convincing me to buy a used gaming pc cuz he himself owns one (i5-2500 and gtx 750ti) which he bought used. Running perfectly fine. ***!!!
*At one side I have ma bro telling me that ma gpu would fry or any * in the pc would stop working and on the other hand is ma friend showing me the dreams of playing cs go!
- So its u guyz to guide me, plz HELP HELP HELP!!!
btw I've been plaing games on my hp notebook i7 and hd 8670M.
THNX AND HELP! May GOD bless U!
 
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PC all the way. If something goes wrong, we are here to help :). Just go with a PC - plus if you're buying used just test the PC before buying it, and if it works then, it'll probably work fine unless you start messing with the internals. If you're that scared, just bring it home, place it under the desk carefully, and don't ever touch it again. Maybe clean once every two months with some compressed air(don't use vacuums). I wouldn't recommend a PS4 over a PC unless there's no other choice, or if it really makes sense.
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Ps4 games are ported to pc. Xbox games are ported to pc. Nintendo games are ported to pc. So a pc can play anything from Mario Cart to Halo to anything found on Steam. Ps4 is stuck with Ps4 games.
Pc is internet ready with Windows, Ps4 gets Sony internet. Don't bother trying to Google your homework on a Ps4.
Pc is upgradable, changeable, adaptable. Ps4 is Ps4.
You can play Ps4 games on a PC. You can't play PC games on a Ps4.

Basically a pc can do anything, even connects to your cellphone, music lists, movies etc. A Ps4 can only do what Sony let's it do. Play games.
 
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PC all the way. If something goes wrong, we are here to help :). Just go with a PC - plus if you're buying used just test the PC before buying it, and if it works then, it'll probably work fine unless you start messing with the internals. If you're that scared, just bring it home, place it under the desk carefully, and don't ever touch it again. Maybe clean once every two months with some compressed air(don't use vacuums). I wouldn't recommend a PS4 over a PC unless there's no other choice, or if it really makes sense.
 
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One advantage of PS4 is it can play all PS4 games.

In PC gaming the games you can play are determined by the parts you have. An i5 2400 plus a GTX 750 Ti, for example, can play a lot of less demanding games at 1080p. It can play some demanding games at 720p. But some games just aren't meant for a system like that.

So an older PC makes sense if you are willing to accept that you won't be able to play everything.
 
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Buying 2nd hand is a gamble, I have lost out myself, when a gfx card turned out to have damaged VRAM chips from excessive over clocking; buying an ex lease PC is usually the safest way, then save up to buy a suitable NEW gfx card later - bearing in mind the power supply may also need changing.

Read up on motherboards and cpus; try to bag a bargain with a cheap cpu in a decent motherboard, then buy the best cpu it will take/you can afford 2nd hand from Ali Express.

Ali Express sells lots of cheap Intel cpus stripped out of ex lease PCs, so they are very reliable; I havent had a bad one yet.

You want the BEST motherboard and PSU you can get/afford, as these can be the foundation of an upgrade path for many years.
 
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The shops here sell branded pcs like hp and dell. They are company manufactured. All u need to do is change a power supply and add a gpu.
 
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Bro u've made my day by saying that ur here to help! :) Plus I want to tell u that the pcs here are like company manufactured branded like hp and dell. My father bought 4 core2duo for office work optiplex 780 and they work perfectly fine.And I also play CSS one one of the spare one. Only thing that worries me is that would the stock intel board be fine and what gpu would be ideal like for 200$ max. I've seen quite few 780ti for 230-250$. And r9 280x for 160$. Wouuld they be fine? or a new card but for 200$... btw thnx
 
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Can I play God Of WAr the new one on pc??????
 
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I think in that case the best choice would be to go with a machine with an i5. Upgrade the power supply on that system, and then buy whatever graphics card you can afford with the remaining money. An i5 can run anything up to a GTX 1060 just fine, and the motherboard won't be any problem as long as it has a PCI-E x16 slot(which they usually do). Under $200, you can find a GTX 1050 Ti, which will work with an i5 system perfectly. But, $200 is the price on Amazon US, so perhaps it will be out of budget for you. If you can afford a 780 Ti, it is a great card, faster than the GTX 1050 Ti by quite a hefty margin(84% according to a quick Google search). But, $230 is really too much for it. On eBay it's going for a mere $150. But, considering that you can find the 1050 Ti for $200, I think it's an okay-ish deal for $230.

Edit 1: A 780 Ti is equivalent to a GTX 1060 6 GB. Find out what the GTX 1060 6 GB goes for in your region, and buy whichever is cheaper - 780 Ti or 1060.



Those games are either all torrented or the seller really doesn't care. Or it's just defective and he's trying to dupe you. Seems too good to be true, unless the games are torrents.
 
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I've been downloading games from torrents all my life expect for cs go and such others that require steam(warzone is available but the servers are good at steam). I've started far cry 5 on download(38%)nosteam :p.
Actually if buying games would have been the case than why would have I not bought a ps4.
--Plus one more thing would i5 3rd gen bottleneck the 1060? and I have seen recent cards.
The r9 380 4gb with few months warranty for 200$, the gtx 960 for 160$ good condition and the 1050 for 200$( I know here the prices are killing almost). So which one would be the best.
Personally saying, I have liking for gtx 960 or r9 280x f0r around 160$. But i really want u to tell which one would be the best CUZ I THINK THAT GTX 780ti would be a way larger step for my first build.
And again thnx bro! :)
Btw there's a shop selling new xbox one with 20 games installed for 400$. But there is so much hate for xbox that those 20 games could also not make me fall for them.
 
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And that's the end of that part of the discussion.
Pirated games are completely off-topic in here.
Continue on this path, and this thread will simply be deleted.
Are we clear on this?
 
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So thats what I'm trying to say that its such a lazy act to keep waiting for a game to download plus u wont also be able to do other stuff as it would cause the slowing of intenet. i've been thinking of buying games on steam just like I did for cs go. It was a good experience but for now its like being forced cuz I dont have a proper system to play on :(. And the other reason is that my brother is going to get his job in few months so he has promised me too buy me games or just simply give money. But of course that selfish wanker would not pay extra for the build as he hates pcgaming :/
 
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If you don't want to go with a 780 Ti, don't bother with the 1060 either, because they're similar in performance.

Out of the four choices for graphics cards, I would recommend going with the R9 280x. It is ~14% faster than the GTX 960, so it is the better choice. Just make sure it works fine, and also you'll need a good power supply for that graphics card - at least 550W Bronze. If you don't want to get a nice power supply, go with the GTX 960. You'll still need a respectable PSU, but maybe not as high quality as with the 280x.



Don't bother talking about torrenting here, you'll only receive dirty eyes from everyone.
 
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One last question plz answer, if I get to buy a NEW gtx 1050ti for 220 or 210$ and a gtx 780ti for the same price, which one should I go for???:??: And do u also not favour torrenting?
 
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Obviously the 780 Ti because it is much more superior to the 1050 Ti. But if you're getting both for the same price, you might want to make sure the card is working fine, because both for the same price sounds a little sketchy...

As for the torrenting part, I just like to stick to the rules of the community of which I'm part of, and if the rules say don't talk about torrenting, then I won't talk about torrenting, whether I like it or not.
 
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Seriously...do you want me to close/delete this thread?

One more mention of that, and this goes away. One more...
 
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Bro u know, what my heart says is that if I really want to go with a used gpu then I should go with ones that cost lesser so that if god forbid something happens wrong so the loss might not be that big, but if I want to go with more money then I think that the gpu should brand new so that at least i may have some gurantee that the product may not malfunction. And for that cause I'm thinking of either going with the gtx 1050ti, or 1060 for more money(280$) https://www.olx.com.pk/item/nvidia-gtx1060-3gb-6gb-super-clocked-edition-IDWZAal.html#642fa996a8

Or with an r9 280x or the 960 maybe for used.

GPU UPDATE: So I've seen a r9 290 for 230$, fine?????(btw good condition)
https://www.olx.com.pk/item/sapphire-r9-290-toxic-edition-IDWVli5.html#1e1ae8e860

And a i5-3570 would be fine??? I mean for future few years too?? or with a gtx 1060???
 
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The R9 290 seems like a good deal, but don't go with the GTX 1060, the i5 may bottleneck it in the future, and in a few current games. I would say go with the R9 290, but you should indeed check it out in a few games, since the seller is okay with it. Seems like your best option here. But, if you don't want to buy second hand, don't go over a GTX 1050 Ti is what I would say. With an i5 that old, you might not use the GTX 1060 to its full potential in some games. The rest is up to you, because I might be thinking a little too much into the future.
 
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if your buying a cheap prebuilt machine check what the board will take for upgrades, I really wouldn’t bother with pcs that old as a poster above has said modern games will be out of reach. Xbox one x is very good value for 4K gaming, you can’t even get the gpu alone what will do 4K for the price of the Xbox.
 
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Shektron said:


The R9 290 seems like a good deal, but don't go with the GTX 1060, the i5 may bottleneck it in the future, and in a few current games. I would say go with the R9 290, but you should indeed check it out in a few games, since the seller is okay with it. Seems like your best option here. But, if you don't want to buy second hand, don't go over a GTX 1050 Ti is what I would say. With an i5 that old, you might not use the GTX 1060 to its full potential in some games. The rest is up to you, because I might be thinking a little too much into the future.
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Hi after long time! I bought this
i7 3770
Intel manufactured mobo
8 gigs ram
Gtx 1060 6gb (zotac blower edition)
Hec raptor 500w psu
One important thing that I only bought the gpu brand new and everyting else is used. I know the psu is not that appealing.
In august 2018
 
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