is this build good ? it s my first pc (no bottleneck ? )

ahmedjomaa001 · Apr 25, 2018

1-hi guys please i need to ask you if this build good for gaming and there is no bottleneck ???
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JnHNP3
just now i can t afford i5 8600k but then i can upgrade ( with the same mobo)
2- also : Unable to verify the Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case has sufficient space to fit the KFA2 - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Virtual Edition Video Card.
it s true ? this case can t fit my gpu ? i already buy the gpu

DRagor · Apr 25, 2018

You do have a slight bottleneck at 1080p and lower resolutions in some games with this CPU, that will be gone when swap to 8600K. Note however that chosen motherboard is very weak, don't expect any meaningful OC on it when you swap CPU. Also single stick of RAM is inferior solution compared to 2 stick kit.
As for the case-GPU warning, pcpartpicker does not have info on this GPU length, hence the warning. I did a bit of digging and this card seems to be just about 11 inches long. Since the case allows over 15 inches long GPU you are most likely good here.

Evvvvv · Apr 25, 2018

ahmedjomaa001 :

That case has 16 inches of clearance for GPU, so 1070 will fit.

genca · Apr 25, 2018

There is bottleneck,u need at least i5 8400, but if you are planning to upgrade it is fine.Try to get ram with heatsink. Looking on kfa2 site the lenght of card is Dimensions(with Bracket): 330 x 152 x 55 mm(copied from website) and your case support 400mm/16.14 inch so you are fine.Sorry for bad english, i hope i helped you

Zerk2012 · Apr 25, 2018

ahmedjomaa001 :

It fits.
No more of a bottleneck than any other PC. (all PC's have a bottleneck ALL)
The memory should be bought in a set of 2 sticks.

ElectrO_90 · Apr 25, 2018

You won't be able to upgrade easily, since it's Intel.
Their last Chipset lasted 7 months - and all NEW Cpu's won't work on it.
Be absolutely sure you want to go to the Intel Side of things, as you will be very limited in upgrades for CPU.

DRagor · Apr 25, 2018

ElectrO_90 :

While this is absolutely true, it is worth mentioning that overclocked 8600K should be absolutely enough to run all new games for few years, and after such time one usually upgrades whole machine not just CPU, so it is not very important.

sourodip · Apr 25, 2018

There wouldn't be any bottlenecks at all with the 8100 and you would be fine with it. It would be the GPU rather than the CPU which would be aging quickly. I am not aware of any games that are said to be having issues with an i3-8100.

Below given is the link of a thread similar to yours.
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3606636/8100-gtx-1070.html

The case you chose supports GPU up to 400 mm whereas the GTX 1070(with bracket) seems to be 330 mm which leaves quite a headroom.
However, the PSU could have been better. I'm listing some around your budget.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nB3RsY/seasonic-power-supply-s12ii620bronze
OR
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bkp323/seasonic-focus-plus-gold-550w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-550fx

ElectrO_90 · Apr 25, 2018

If you go AMD route, new games will be using more cores and with the 2600, you get 6/12 cores
If you go with the intel, you will always be lagging behind with Cores and Threads, which you will notice by the end of this year, the difference. Games are starting to use the extra cores now.

I understand what you are saying about upgrading, I have had my Intel 17-4790k for a long time, but my next build will be AMD, because they are just better.
I also don't care about 2-5fps difference in a game running on QHD

maxalge · Apr 25, 2018

ElectrO_90 :

lol this is the same sad argument made for the fx 8350

by the time games use 12 threads current processors would be utterly obsolete
your argument is stupendously irrational

the majority of ryzen is 10 - 20 fps SLOWER than an i5 8400

your i7 4790k is also superior, you would be downgrading for gaming switching to current ryzen cpu's

ahmedjomaa001 · Apr 25, 2018

ElectrO_90 :

i don't understand why it can t work ?

ahmedjomaa001 · Apr 25, 2018

sourodip :

There wouldn't be any bottlenecks at all with the 8100 and you would be fine with it. It would be the GPU rather than the CPU which would be aging quickly. I am not aware of any games that are said to be having issues with an i3-8100.

Below given is the link of a thread similar to yours.
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3606636/8100-gtx-1070.html

The case you chose supports GPU up to 400 mm whereas the GTX 1070(with bracket) seems to be 330 mm which leaves quite a headroom.
However, the PSU could have been better. I'm listing some around your budget.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nB3RsY/seasonic-power-supply-s12ii620bronze
OR
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bkp323/seasonic-focus-plus-gold-550w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-550fx

ok tnx bro BUT not all psus are dispo in my country that s why i am limited !!

ahmedjomaa001 · Apr 25, 2018

DRagor :

tnx
but there is not a big difference between 8100 and i5 8600k or i5 8400 i only play some games like fps games / bf 1 / overwatch / gta v on 1080 p and i which that when i upgrade i gonna got a big difference of fps or not ?
i only gonna use it for games no montage ...

ahmedjomaa001 · Apr 25, 2018

maxalge :

ElectrO_90 :

lol this is the same sad argument made for the fx 8350

by the time games use 12 threads current processors would be utterly obsolete
your argument is stupendously irrational

the majority of ryzen is 10 - 20 fps SLOWER than an i5 8400

your i7 4790k is also superior, you would be downgrading for gaming switching to current ryzen cpu's

you mean that there is not a big difference for gaming fps if i change cpu from i3 8100 to i5 8400 or i5 8600k ?
i don t need to spand like 350$ ( my country s i5 8600k ) just to get like +10 fps ? )

ElectrO_90 · Apr 25, 2018

ahmedjomaa001 :

I3/5/7-7 series don't work on the new motherboards. Bios Locked.

ElectrO_90 · Apr 25, 2018

maxalge :

ElectrO_90 :

lol this is the same sad argument made for the fx 8350

by the time games use 12 threads current processors would be utterly obsolete
your argument is stupendously irrational

the majority of ryzen is 10 - 20 fps SLOWER than an i5 8400

your i7 4790k is also superior, you would be downgrading for gaming switching to current ryzen cpu's

You obviously know so much more than the rest of us, when it comes to future cpu needs.
Got the future lottery numbers?

DRagor · Apr 25, 2018

ahmedjomaa001 :

On bf1 you would see difference for sure, that game is CPU bound and 8600K is much faster. On remaining two most likely there is no difference you could see unless you had high refresh monitor (144 or 240 Hz).

ahmedjomaa001 · Apr 25, 2018

DRagor :

mm i have only 24" 60 hz monitor and i am not the kind of persons who need to get more than 200 fps i only need to get like 100 fps it s ok for 60 hz monitor so i think that the best solution is i3 8100 ?

ElectrO_90 · Apr 25, 2018

DRagor :

Not according to this - http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/battlefield_1_pc_graphics_benchmark_review,10.html
Very little difference in CPU

ahmedjomaa001 · Apr 25, 2018

ElectrO_90 :

ahmedjomaa001 :

I3/5/7-7 series don't work on the new motherboards. Bios Locked.

you mean old generation can t work with new mobos ??

DRagor · Apr 25, 2018

ahmedjomaa001 :

In the end, it is always a matter of budget. 8100 will do for most uses (I have 7500 which is pretty much same in performance and I don't think I need anything more), anything better will just last longer/give better FPS in some games (esp. new ones). If you can afford better CPU, go for it, otherwise 8100 will be good as well.

ahmedjomaa001 · Apr 25, 2018

DRagor :

ahmedjomaa001 :

In the end, it is always a matter of budget. 8100 will do for most uses (I have 7500 which is pretty much same in performance and I don't think I need anything more), anything better will just last longer/give better FPS in some games (esp. new ones). If you can afford better CPU, go for it, otherwise 8100 will be good as well.

and what about mobo ? z370pd3 it s good ?

ahmedjomaa001 · Apr 25, 2018

DRagor :

i have now cpu q8300 and gt 610 + 4 gb ddr 2 so upgrading to 8100 + gtx 1070 i think that s Great achievement for me also going from 40 fps low sittings to +100 also it s so great and i think i don t need more

DRagor · Apr 25, 2018

Z370 D3 is poor choice. It is cheap because it lacks many capabilities present in better Z boards (for example it has very weak sound card). If you were to stick with locked CPU like 8100 (or even 8400), consider getting B360 or H370 board. For same money as D3 you can get board that has better capabilities, or get better Z board like AsRock Z370 Pro4.

maxalge · Apr 25, 2018

ElectrO_90 :

you can make predictions when you are well informed, like i said above same old arguments from the past

so instead of educating yourself, you attack me? sad

is this build good ? it s my first pc (no bottleneck ? )

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