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alfredytting

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Hello,
I'm trying to build a budget gaming pc and I have almost no knowledge or experience with building computers. So I've done some research and found some different components to building the computer. Does this build make sense? Will this be able to run any games with big titles? Any tips and feedback will help.

My expected build:

PSU:
Spire PEARL 600W

CPU:
AMD FX 4300 - 3.8 GHz - 4 cores - 6 MB cache - Socket AM3+

Motherboard:
Biostar A960D+ V2, DDR3-SDRAM, DIMM, 800,1066,1333,1600,1866 Mhz, double-channel,
16 GB, AMD, Socket AM3+

GPU:
Gigabyte Geforce GT 1030 OC 2GB GDDR5

RAM:
MicroMemory - DDR3 - 8 GB - DIMM 240-pin - 1333 MHz

I'm not sure if I want to buy the 8gb ram or if it would be better to buy 2x4gb with 1600Mhz for +50% the price.

Storage:
I wanna use my hdd 640mb from my old computer and if that's not enough I'm planning on buying 120gb or 240gb of ssd.

Keep in mind that my budget doesn't reach much further than this and that the computer doesn't need to run all games on 1080p 60fps with highest graphics.
Thank you for your help in advance.


 
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Sorry to disappoint you, but this setup at 1080p is going to make below 60 FPS on lowest graphical settings in new games. Both the CPU and GPU are not really good for gaming. I would probably try to make a build around new Ryzen 2200G/2400G without GPU, the price should be more or less similar, but performance better and upgrading path simpler (as you would only need to add good GPU when you have the money to make it real gaming machine).
 
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No. Choose a decent PSU.

No. Don't invest in AMD FX line. Even low end Intel pentium is better than this.

Ok. For low end gaming gpu this is fine.

Go with 16GB, if possible.

Yes - get SSD.
 
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If you have to go under 300 gbp, swap 2400G for 2200G, otherwise this is my call:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor (£119.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AX370M-DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£68.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£79.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£53.81 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £322.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-25 12:00 BST+0100
 
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Does the Ryzen 2200G then have integrated graphics that could run games better than the other setup or would I still need to buy a graphics card to be able to play any games?
 
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Basically your current build is terrible on all points.
Old weak cpu from 5 years ago.
TERRIBLE psu.
Cruddy motherboard.
Weak gpu.

Also we need to know your budget and where you are buying from since it really depends on the country what parts are worth

Here is my advice for it:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DxXbhy
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DxXbhy/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($94.69 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: ADATA - Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($62.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT SW RED ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $392.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-25 07:00 EDT-0400

Do note that the board may need a bios update before the ryzen 2200g will work on it. Amd currently has a program going on where they lend you a low end a6 apu to update the bios.

The 2200g is an apu and the integrated gpu is enough to start gaming but you should add in a stronger gpu later. The gpu in the 2200 is about as strong as the gt 1030.
The 2200g cpu wise is about 70% stronger than the fx 4300 and can actually run modern games.

I included a high quality psu that won't break your system.
Also added a 240gb ssd since running on an hdd is slow and a 120gb ssd is simply too small.

This pc should be able to run a lot of games at above 30fps compared to the one you suggested which would often run below 30 fps.
 
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Yes it has integrated card that is about same power as gtx 1030. But you can also later add dedicated graphic card to further increase performance.
 
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alfredytting

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Thanks a lot, I will take a look at that
 
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alfredytting

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Thank you for your feedback.

What would a decent PSU be?

Also is 16 gb really needed? I don't think my budget would be able to hold that.
 
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alfredytting

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Thanks!
 
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alfredytting

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Thank you
 
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alfredytting

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Thank you. I will take a look.
 
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alfredytting

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Thank you. This helped a lot.
I'm from Denmark, and bying all components on a danish website called computersalg.dk

Would the corsair 450W qualify as a good psu?

Would it be ok to downgrade from the B350 PC MATE?
Since I don't know much about computers is it the chipset that makes the PC MATE better to buy than the cheaper A320 chipset motherboards?
What is better about the PC MATE than the MSI B350M GAMING PRO?

Does this build sound good:

CPU: Ryzen 3 2200G
Memory: Patriot Extreme Performance Viper Elite - DDR4 - 8 GB: 2 x 4 GB - DIMM 288-PIN - 2800 MHz
Motherboard: B350 PC MATE or MSI B350M GAMING PRO or A320 mobo if acceptable
PSU: Corsair vs450 450W
SSD: Kingston SSDNow A400 240gb
 
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Corsair VS are not good quality units.
RAM speed matters lot when using integrated graphics of 220G - you want as fast RAM as possible, otherwise you will take direct hit to performance. 2400 MHz IMO is not enough for that setup.
Stick to B350 motherboard, as A320 will limit you in various ways (for example in RAM speed).
 
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alfredytting

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Thank you.

Do you have any suggestions for a good PSU for low price like the VS?
How do I know if it's good quality?

CPU: Ryzen 3 2200G
Memory: Patriot Extreme Performance Viper Elite - DDR4 - 8 GB: 2 x 4 GB - DIMM 288-PIN - 2800 MHz
Motherboard: MSI B350M GAMING PRO
PSU: ?
SSD: Kingston SSDNow A400 240gb
 
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Newegg is cheaper because its prices don't include European taxes. If you add taxes and shipping costs (which are very high), the savings are questionable at best and most likely non-existent. Plus warranty issues are usually solved faster and simpler when buying locally.
 
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