what should i upgrade?

allen johnson · Apr 25, 2018

my current set up:
amd phenom ii x4 955
1 ssd
HD7770
ddr3 corsair vengeance
corsair v650

Im planning to upgrade but i cant buy all of them at once. can someone give me ideas what parts should i upgrade first and the parts I should hold until i gather enough money. I prefer an intel build but amd will do thank you in advance!

androbourne · Apr 25, 2018

Yes. Phenom is like 3 generations old of a CPU so that means most compatible components in that PC are years old as well.

Keep your current PC and just slowly build a new one in the mean time. I wouldn't invest anything more into that current PC.

If budget is an issue. Then I'd look into an AMD Ryzen build. You normally can get them cheaper with great performance compared to Intel counterpart.

What do you plan to use this PC for? We need to know what to target the parts towards which will greatly change the price outcome depending on your needs.

WildCard999 · Apr 25, 2018

Depends on your current budget but something like this would be a big upgrade over your current system.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8100 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($118.80 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($83.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $268.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-25 10:26 EDT-0400

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i3-8100-vs-AMD-Phenom-II-X4-955/3942vs2935

Then the next upgrade would be the GPU.

drinkingcola86 · Apr 25, 2018

When you upgrade you need to do things in kind of a series. First I would do your cpu/ram/mb together. The worst thing you can do is buy one or two of those items, wait a few months, then buy the rest only to find out that one of the first purchases was bad and you can't return it to the seller.

After you buy those, I would look at your video card. It is very old and dated and would then limit you on the games you can play at certain FPS and settings. Right now though, video card prices are jumping all over the place because of the left over miner craze from last year. You might be able to find a decent used one on Ebay or some other tech selling site but it is always buyer beware.

The major reason why I offered the AMD build is because they said they will support the socket until 2020 where Intel usually changes interface every 2 years.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($139.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $293.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-25 11:24 EDT-0400

ElectrO_90 · Apr 25, 2018

You can always look for second-hand using a Z87/97 motherboard then you get to keep your DDR3
i7-4970k being the best to get, but anything in the 3/4th gen would be better.

logainofhades · Apr 25, 2018

A current budget would be helpful.

allen johnson · Apr 25, 2018

logainofhades :

for the budget, its around 300-400$. i live in the philippines where prices of pc parts are higher than US because of tax. I was thinking to upgrade first the CPU+mobo+memory(ddr4) like @drinkingcola86 said but i dont know if its reasonable because my gpu is very old. And I saw in youtube that the integrated graphics in some ryzen build are better than my current setup

allen johnson · Apr 25, 2018

drinkingcola86 :

When you upgrade you need to do things in kind of a series. First I would do your cpu/ram/mb together. The worst thing you can do is buy one or two of those items, wait a few months, then buy the rest only to find out that one of the first purchases was bad and you can't return it to the seller.

After you buy those, I would look at your video card. It is very old and dated and would then limit you on the games you can play at certain FPS and settings. Right now though, video card prices are jumping all over the place because of the left over miner craze from last year. You might be able to find a decent used one on Ebay or some other tech selling site but it is always buyer beware.

The major reason why I offered the AMD build is because they said they will support the socket until 2020 where Intel usually changes interface every 2 years.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($139.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $293.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-25 11:24 EDT-0400

can i reuse my current gpu in this build or the integrated gpu of ryzen 5 1400 is better?

logainofhades · Apr 25, 2018

The Ryzen 1400 does not have graphics, so you would have to reuse your current graphics card. You would need to look at the 2400g for better integrated graphics.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($162.79 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $312.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-25 12:11 EDT-0400

allen johnson · Apr 25, 2018

logainofhades :

if i use the ryzen 5 2400g. do i have to reuse my hd7770 or is it better without it?

WildCard999 · Apr 25, 2018

If you can post the site your buying from then we can probably help you pick parts directly from them. You have up to 20,000 Piso to spend?

allen johnson · Apr 25, 2018

and i have a 212 evo cooler if that info can help

allen johnson · Apr 25, 2018

WildCard999 :

yes 20000 Php. the thing is not all parts are present in a shop here so there is a chance that i will go to different places to get a specific component but here are some of their websites:

http://www.pcoptionsph.com/
http://www.pcworx.ph/?module=pricelist&code=PRCLST00004
https://pcx.com.ph/
http://dynaquestpc.com/

logainofhades · Apr 25, 2018

allen johnson :

logainofhades :

if i use the ryzen 5 2400g. do i have to reuse my hd7770 or is it better without it?

You do not have to reuse the HD7770, with the 2400g. The 2200g and 2400g have integrated graphics.

drinkingcola86 · Apr 25, 2018

Checking a couple of the sites as of today, I didn't see the 2400g there for sale yet. Might be a little bit before it hits the Philippines but that would be a very solid option for you right now. the build that Logain linked is good. The option on that price though is that the faster the memory you can get, that is also supported for your MB, the better. The APU uses part of the DDR4 ram for any overflow video ram and having as fast as you can pay for is usually better. I would aim for something in the 3200 or the 3400 speed range.

allen johnson · Apr 26, 2018

drinkingcola86 :

i found a store selling the components Logain provided
CPU
http://dynaquestpc.com/product/amd-ryzen-5-2400g-4-core-8-thread-3-5-3-9-ghz-4mb-65w-am4-apu-vega-11-12501760-ddr4-2933/
mobos and ram ( help me choose)
http://dynaquestpc.com/product-category/components/motherboard-mobo/motherboard-mobo-am4-ryzen/page/2/
http://dynaquestpc.com/product-category/memory-ram/memory-ram-lodimm/ddr4-2400-2666-2133-2800-ram/

ElectrO_90 · Apr 26, 2018

I can't recommend this enough.
NEWEGG is now International. Please try them out and check the prices, they add all the tax and shipping for you.
If it taxed more than they say - They will pay the EXTRA so you don't have to.

allen johnson · Apr 26, 2018

ElectrO_90 :

i would love to try international shipping but unfortunately, in my country packages that imported inside where received by local post offices(gov) and they add almost 50% of the price. i dont think newegg can cover it. international shipping here sucks

allen johnson · Apr 26, 2018

logainofhades :

i read the review for the ASRock AB350M Pro4 in newegg but they say that theres a common problem where the system reboots and freezes

ElectrO_90 · Apr 26, 2018

Newegg Philippines I sent you a PM - this is just a quick click here and there

GIGABYTE AB350M-DS3H AM4 AMD X370 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
₱3,136.99

G.SKILL TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Intel Z170 Platform Desktop Memory Model ...
₱9,051.99

AMD RYZEN 5 2400G Quad-Core 3.6 GHz (3.9 GHz Turbo) Socket AM4 65W YD2400C5FBBOX Desktop Processor
₱8,494.99

SAMSUNG 860 EVO Series 2.5" 250GB SATA III 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-76E250B/AM
₱4,433.99

Subtotal: ₱25,117.96
Shipping: ₱2,664.75

2x4gb ram is about 5000 saving you 4,000
You may not need the SSD saving you another 4,400

So that would bring you in line with your 20k

allen johnson · Apr 26, 2018

ElectrO_90 :

Newegg Philippines I sent you a PM - this is just a quick click here and there

GIGABYTE AB350M-DS3H AM4 AMD X370 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
₱3,136.99

G.SKILL TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Intel Z170 Platform Desktop Memory Model ...
₱9,051.99

AMD RYZEN 5 2400G Quad-Core 3.6 GHz (3.9 GHz Turbo) Socket AM4 65W YD2400C5FBBOX Desktop Processor
₱8,494.99

SAMSUNG 860 EVO Series 2.5" 250GB SATA III 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-76E250B/AM
₱4,433.99

Subtotal: ₱25,117.96
Shipping: ₱2,664.75

2x4gb ram is about 5000 saving you 4,000
You may not need the SSD saving you another 4,400

So that would bring you in line with your 20k

I already have 120gb hyper x ssd so it will be so 16k. thanks for the help man!

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