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Would you get the 8th gen i7 or wait for the z390 ?
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It probably depends what your building for. If it's just gaming, then there's no current CPU, with an OC, that's gonna restrict any GPU these days realistically. That should hold true for a while also. They next gen CPU may bring a small boost but historically that's maybe a coupe FPS, maybe, and that also depends what resolution you're gaming at. If you're going 2k or 4k, you're good all day as that's all GPU investment.
If you're building a workstation for non gaming use, there's a whole 'nother conversation.
Personally I always recommend just building, unless you already know all the specs and gains of the next chipset and CPU AND know they'll actually give you something additional you really need.
If you're building a workstation for non gaming use, there's a whole 'nother conversation.
Personally I always recommend just building, unless you already know all the specs and gains of the next chipset and CPU AND know they'll actually give you something additional you really need.
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thank you sir for your encouragement , i too am in favor of "just building" although there are many people who would discourage
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I find that it depends on your expected level of expense. I don't mind replacing the core of my computer every few years. Some people want their computer to last for 10 years. For those looking at the long timelines it can make sense to wait for a significant generational improvement.
An Intel 8 core consumer chip will probably last a good long while. Consider that pretty much every Core i7 is still relevant today, just about ten years.
I agree, if the goal is gaming, buy whatever makes sense at the time. When you can't play the game you want at the performance level you want, time to start shopping. I would say for that case, only wait for a release if it is imminent.
An Intel 8 core consumer chip will probably last a good long while. Consider that pretty much every Core i7 is still relevant today, just about ten years.
I agree, if the goal is gaming, buy whatever makes sense at the time. When you can't play the game you want at the performance level you want, time to start shopping. I would say for that case, only wait for a release if it is imminent.
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If you already have a decent setup and you're getting by ok, then just wait. My primary laptop has an i7-6820hk in it and it's obviously still holding up just fine. Even my primary desktop, with an i5-4690k still handles current games just fine as well.
I'm planning to first get one of the new Nvidia cards, then I'll go for a Z390 and most likely a Cannon Lake CPU(unless there's a good deal on an i7-8700k by then).
I'm planning to first get one of the new Nvidia cards, then I'll go for a Z390 and most likely a Cannon Lake CPU(unless there's a good deal on an i7-8700k by then).
I doubt Z390 w/i7-9700K, even if an 8 core comes out, is going to be able to even match the 4.3 GHz all core boost of the 8700K, but, perhaps Intel will pull some trickery to get 6 of the 8 cores to 4.4 GHz just so it is faster than the 8700K, but, I'd be surprised if it beats it at all, and if so, it won't be by much......
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It would be about what you can do with overclocking. Anyone that cares about the core count won't be that interested in the speed of those cores, as long as they are fast enough. They would likely be looking at more pro grade systems anyway. Enthusiasts would be more interested in what you can get with a run of the mill AIO cooler or custom water cooling.
There is always de-lidding to get amazing results.
I keep thinking about upgrading too. I have a 6th gen i7-6700 (non K). But a 7th gen only improves performance by a little bit. An 8th gen would require a new motherboard altogether. Meanwhile, what I have is working perfectly well for me. It's all about that dissatisfied feeling of knowing there's something better available. I hate feeling that way.
More cores? Why? Is anybody maxxing out 4 cores simultaneously now? Barring serious engineering apps, what mainstream software would benefit from more than 4 cores? Sure, I'd love to have 12 cores/24 processors. Maybe I'm wrong, but I really don't have any use for that many. I'd benefit far more from a higher clock rate.
I play games like Cities Skylines, Stellaris, Horizon, Chessmaster, etc., watch videos, and run a few background apps. Really not high powered stuff. So why do I always feel the desire to take it to "ludicrous speed"?
I've got a 4 SSD RAID 0 - about as fast as an NVMe drive (I automatically backup weekly). My boot time is already ridiculously fast. So why do I want my next puter to have either a 6 SSD RAID0, or a 2NVMe RAID0? Or maybe find something even faster? Why am I like this? What's wrong with me?
I've decided to wait to see what the 8th Gen has to offer before I do anything stupid - like confusing a want with a need.
More cores? Why? Is anybody maxxing out 4 cores simultaneously now? Barring serious engineering apps, what mainstream software would benefit from more than 4 cores? Sure, I'd love to have 12 cores/24 processors. Maybe I'm wrong, but I really don't have any use for that many. I'd benefit far more from a higher clock rate.
I play games like Cities Skylines, Stellaris, Horizon, Chessmaster, etc., watch videos, and run a few background apps. Really not high powered stuff. So why do I always feel the desire to take it to "ludicrous speed"?
I've got a 4 SSD RAID 0 - about as fast as an NVMe drive (I automatically backup weekly). My boot time is already ridiculously fast. So why do I want my next puter to have either a 6 SSD RAID0, or a 2NVMe RAID0? Or maybe find something even faster? Why am I like this? What's wrong with me?
I've decided to wait to see what the 8th Gen has to offer before I do anything stupid - like confusing a want with a need.
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I usually go for major improvements.
DDR3 -> DDR4
SATA III -> NVMe
DDR5 might be interesting, but usually the first modules available are slower than the high end of the previous generation.
PCIe 4.0 (Probably not necessary for single GPUs to date)
Maybe more USB Type C. It would be nice to unify my devices, but they are going to be pumping out Type A for many years to come.
But really my last upgrade was because, 5Ghz. Just sounds cool.
I ran my i7-4770k with the same 1080 for a while. Was only about a 20% CPU performance difference, via benchmark anyway. Biggest gain was definitely drive speed. But like you I had SSDs in Raid 0 (but that was because I wanted at least 500GB on a partition, and 500GB drives at the time were $600)
DDR3 -> DDR4
SATA III -> NVMe
DDR5 might be interesting, but usually the first modules available are slower than the high end of the previous generation.
PCIe 4.0 (Probably not necessary for single GPUs to date)
Maybe more USB Type C. It would be nice to unify my devices, but they are going to be pumping out Type A for many years to come.
But really my last upgrade was because, 5Ghz. Just sounds cool.
I ran my i7-4770k with the same 1080 for a while. Was only about a 20% CPU performance difference, via benchmark anyway. Biggest gain was definitely drive speed. But like you I had SSDs in Raid 0 (but that was because I wanted at least 500GB on a partition, and 500GB drives at the time were $600)
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