[HELP] Components for a budget gaming PC under $200

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Hi everyone!

I really really reeeeally need help here.
I want to make a budget thrift PC gaming build becuase a Ryzen 5 build seems to pricey for my mum's pocket.
Since i stepped out from the ryzen 5 option that just makes my choices...more..difficult to narrow down.
Yes there are probably threads here already but my circumstances are far more complex and here they are:

1- For me i need the gpu performance for Paintstorm and photoshop,i'm a digital painter
2-My sisters want to play games like : FFxV and XIII,sonic forces and guilty gear XRD (i would probably play overwatch)
3-My location..the tough one,i live in Kurdistan and finding anything to thrift besides a motherboard is impossible .So i will buy from ebay
4-Since you know my location,you should know that buying online/shipping is not the same.
I made a paypal via Nasspay card and Use a service we have called 'Boombinere' which allows us to buy products online and ship it to our USA locker adress and upon request they will ship to my country
5- Here is the problem; $8 shipping fee per pound (lb)
6-So i cant buy anything heavy, so i would have to EXCLUDE the Case and Powersupply
7-there were so many deals on old i5 desktops i could have bought & stuffed a gpu ,but sadly the shipping would cost me over $150 for that weight

(if anyone has some actual assets to sell ,i am intrested)
 
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X350 is a Xeon CPU (so enterprise grade i7). It does have a high TDP of 95C, so it runs hot. If you cheap out on the heatsink it will either run the fan at high speed all the time or you'll run into thermal throttling. Really what that means is you want something better than a stock Intel heatsink. A simple EVO 212 (120mm fan) or similar size should do fine with it.

Any CPU older than Skylake (6000 series) and the AMD Ryzen are DDR3 only. When you find a motherboard be sure to google its spec sheet to find out exactly what CPU models and RAM it takes. Last thing you want to do is have stuff shipped all the way to you only to discover they aren't compatible.

Intel 3000 series is better than 2000 series but not by an enormous...
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With those kinds of shipping costs, anything remotely viable is going to exceed your budget.

Consider, even the CPU w/a basic stock cooler (say the R3 2200G for arguments sake) is about 1.5lbs alone. There's $16 (near 10% of the budget) JUST to ship a CPU.

Any GPU (even a low profile/small optiion) once packaged is going to be a minimum 3-4lbs.... so about 15% of the budget to ship a GPU

A motherboard would be another 3+lbs

So, even without deciding specifically *what* components you could do (theoretically), you're looking at 33-50% of the budget outright being in shipping.

The $200 is hard enough to do anything with.... $100 is pushing impossible for anything remotely viable.

Do you have markets etc near you? I'd suggest trying to find something like an old i5-2400 office system - replace the PSU/Case and add a GPU.
Even if the local pricing is 2or3x the US equivalent, you're still likely to come out ahead if you don't have to deal with that kind of shipping cost.
 
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well you have your answer already, ebay. For your price range you are looking at the ix-2xxx to ix-3xxx range, those are LGA 1155 motherboard socket CPUs. If that proves to be too much look to the i7-9xx series which is LGA 1366 motherboards. Try and get an i7 for the 4 core / 8 threads. Don't forget RAM, at least 4 GB but preferably 8. Problem is these parts alone may blow through your budget before you get to the GPU.

Honestly you'll have a terrible time with the GPU. With that budget you'll really be looking at low performance in comparison to modern cards. So set your expectations accordingly. Maybe set your search around the GTX 750 ti level? See hierarchy chart to see the cards generic placement against each other. https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

I agree though that the weight issue is a serious problem and will likely burn through your budget even without the case and PSU.

Is their a local shop or anything near your? Perhaps you can save some shipping cost by finding a motherboard or GPU there and just order the CPU and RAM. That way you're only shipping the smallest lightest parts.
 
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thanks for the reply guys

Yeah the shipping is going to be a difficult part to over come, But lets just say that out of my expense i will put in ..i would say about "$40" on shipping expense and the whole $200 will go into the build (i can ship whenever i saved up the shipping expense )
When i calculated my ryzen build shipping from ram,cpu,HDD and motherboard it didn't exceed $40

I can exclude the cooler, Coolers and motherboards are the most available thing in the used market locally.But the local sellers know what these parts are worth and its potential, they have the habbit of scamming alot of money out of you if you arent witty enough.

The real question is what CPU+GPU combination o need to decide the right motherboard?
Im intrested in all options especially gpu options.

i heard X350 cpus are a good? but i keep hearing if u dont be carefuk you could run into heat issues something like that?

i am going to look for old pCs and try and find some I5 gems but i know that they will over charge,last time i asked how much a old dell xps they had,its prices exceeded way beyond this budget.
But heard generation of these cpus make a huge difference but how? some claim second gen i5 is better than 3rd gen i5?

i have an old case and also my current dead pc's case and its pretty big im sure i can fit the components into it,but there is no shortage of cases in the market.

i most likley will ship the cpu and gpu (ram maybe but depends,motherboard depends too)

so i think if anyone can present me some CPU+GPU combos would be very helpful ^_^

(note: Dual channel ram or single ram? DRR3 or DDR4? what would be the best optioms for performance)
 
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X350 is a Xeon CPU (so enterprise grade i7). It does have a high TDP of 95C, so it runs hot. If you cheap out on the heatsink it will either run the fan at high speed all the time or you'll run into thermal throttling. Really what that means is you want something better than a stock Intel heatsink. A simple EVO 212 (120mm fan) or similar size should do fine with it.

Any CPU older than Skylake (6000 series) and the AMD Ryzen are DDR3 only. When you find a motherboard be sure to google its spec sheet to find out exactly what CPU models and RAM it takes. Last thing you want to do is have stuff shipped all the way to you only to discover they aren't compatible.

Intel 3000 series is better than 2000 series but not by an enormous amount, you usually have to wait 3 to 4 generations on Intel for an upgrade to be worth the money. The reason you hear about the 2000 series is in reference to the K (unlocked) series. These chips when overclocked were still worth all the way up to Skylake (6000 series) so people were very happy with them. The same was true of the 3000 series, but obviously more people bought the previous 2000 series and skipped the 3000 series.

X3450 looks like a decent choice, average sell price on ebay is $20-25. Its a socket LGA 1156 so that's the kind of motherboard you want to look for. https://ark.intel.com/products/42929/Intel-Xeon-Processor-X3450-8M-Cache-2_66-GHz Looks like this site has a list of motherboard models that will work with this CPU. http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/CPUs/Intel/Xeon/X3450_motherboards.html

So with that in mind
$200
<40> ship
<25> X3450
Leaves you with $135 for a GPU

With that budget it looks like a used RX 460 might be within your range. Which would be nice as it gets you a modern card. See Tom's review of it. https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-460,4707-4.html From the charts you can see the GTX 750 Ti and R9 270x, both older models, are within the same performance range so those would be good choices to look at as well. Your preference should be for one with 4 GB of VRAM, but with your budget you many need to settle for just 2GB of VRAM.

Be wary with the GPUs. There are many, many deceptive or straight out lying units for sale. So be sure to check the sellers star rating and give preference to people who clearly took pictures themselves instead of reposting images they got off of google.
 
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I just want to note : I have a Albatron pm945gc motherboard in my old PC.
My mum refused me to buy anything becuase she is a afraid of stuff not being competible etc.

So im going to try and cheap out on this alot and sneak in a new processor for my current old motherboard
I am so confused which is the best lga775 Cpu.
Idk about a gpu yet but i will also have to cheap out on that too, I might go for a Gtx 660 or 660 ti . I am not sure about better gpu options
 
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