Huge bottlenecking problem ryzen 3 2200g gtx 1060 6gb in cpu bound games

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Whenever I am playing games such as GTA V or Battlefield 1 64 player, I am getting a huge cpu bottleneck. It is at 100% usage 24/7 while my GPU chills at around 30-50%. I am getting lots of stuttering in these two games. (my cpu is oced to 3.85ghz 3.5v) I am even getting problems in Rainbow Six Siege, the cpu usage is around 70 percent.

I've researched that a Ryzen 3 shouldn't bottleneck a 1060 that bad, and looking at benchmarks with similar hardware (ryzen 3 1200 instead) there is much less of a bottleneck and stuttering.

I feel like the main culprit is my single channel 8gb ram clocked at 2800mhz.

All my drivers are fine, there are no major background processes, no thermal throttling, power plan is at high performance.
 
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Woops, I am sorry, it's actually 1.35v and I will test it w/o oc.

Edit: I still have the bottleneck. I monitored using RTSS and Afterburner and it is boosting to 3650Mhz so there is no thermal throttling.
 
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Ah, ok. 1.35V is fine. I've heard with the new chips 1.4V is a pretty hard limit for 24/7 use. I thought you were somehow using 1.5V and weren't reading your temps right. Because if you are using 1.5V you have high temps. At least with normal coolers. I'm a bit lost as to what the problem would be. Maybe just not enough CPU seeing as it is an R3?
 
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Yeah, it does bottleneck and I wasn't expecting this much after seeing benchmarks with much less stuttering and bottleneck. Do you think something like a R5 1400 will solve it because of its threads?
 
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I can buy a R5 1400 for 120 on microcenter or just 150 for the 1600. Which one is the better value for gaming?
 
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What frames are you getting? I went looking for benchmarks of the 2200G, but can only find them with the IGP found in the chip. There seems to be a lack of results showing what it can do with GTA5 and dGPU. I don't know if what you are seeing is normal for that chip and game or if there is some other issue. I normally would argue that it's pointless to spend that much money on a chip only one or two steps higher. If it gets you more cores however it could be worth it.

 
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Very high settings GTA 5, im getting 40 fps usually, and sometimes 80 during those rare moments the gtx 1060 does something. Battlefield 1 is unplayable. 50 fps with extremely frequent drops to 20-30 fps. The frametime graph always spikes like crazy. (tried both medium and ultra presets and they basically perform identically)

As for third party benchmarks, this is comparing ryzen 3 1200 and ryzen 3 2200g: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz94iSE49BU
Clock speed boost makes the 2200g on par/outperform r3 1200.

Now a 64 player conquest match with r3 1200 and gtx 1060: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72x6508kBUs
His r3 is overclocked to 3.8ghz, so my 2200g should be around the same performance. However there is little to no stuttering, much better frames and higher gpu usage.


 
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Did you look at all of the video? Because he is showing pretty much only very light areas which is why he is getting good FPS,if you look at 5-6min in you will see him get low to mid 40s with wild swings and even then he is in pretty light areas of the game.
In the center of the town of amiens for example you will get much worse FPS then that.
 
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Wait. The 2200G is basically a 1300X with IGP slapped on. Same core/thread count, and same clock boosts. Lets look at our sister site.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/11658/the-amd-ryzen-3-1300x-ryzen-3-1200-cpu-review/15

Here is the 1300X and the 1080 getting 75FPS. The 99th %tile shows it can drop down to 46FPS. And that's with a 1080, not a 1060. To get ~40FPS with a 1060 would be a good thing looking at that info.
 
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Im also looking at the 1060 graph and it also shows a drop of 40 FPS. However the thing is that my gpu usage is never consistent. So, I get 60 to 70 with >70% usage but basically everywhere else I’m stuttering and frame dropping to the forties. Battlefield 1 is even worse. I can record some bf1 conquest gameplay and upload it to utube to see exactly what I’m experiencing.

 
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What I'm trying to say is it sounds like it's working as the reviews show. Avg 40FPS. If a 1300X and a 1080 can spend it's time around 45-70FPS, I'm not surprised your 2200G and 1060 do worse. If you thought you had a setup that would do 60+ easy, you don't. Upgrading that CPU should be the burst you need.
 
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Okay, I don't want to upgrade my CPU now since I just recently got the 2200g. The motherboard I am using right now is the Asrock AB350M-HDV which is very low end. Should I sell my R3 2200g and buy an R5 1400 for 120 or pay just 150 for the 1600 right now. Or wait for B450 and for Ryzen 2nd gen prices to drop next year.
 
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That is absolutely normal games do not have the same graphics need all through the game,looking at a empty field is much easier for the GPU then drawing hundreds of buildings in the city.
 
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I see, however in Battlefield 1 the frametime is always a roller coaster disregarding how intense the battle is, it spikes up then down, up then down, etc. 4 cores is not enough for BF1 but I never knew it was this bad.
 
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I would make sure first that all cores stay at the clocks that they should,if you really get more ups and downs as you should it could be that you get thermal throttled,don't just assume that everything is ok,you said that it is boosting to 3650Mhz but when gaming it should always stay at maximum,if it drops while gaming than that's the problem.
 
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Running AIDA64 stress test with 3.85Ghz OC, HWMonitor and even Ryzen Master says its around 55 degrees celsius. AIDA64 displays it around 35 degrees celsius for some reason.
 
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Should you upgrade? That's something you need to decide. I don't know your life story, nor should we. If you've got the money now, then sure. I remember reading when Ryzen came out that it was "decided" that the 1600 or 1600X was the sweet spot. You are several notches below that. Which is probably why it's fine in some games but an issue in others. Worth it? Only you know that.
 
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I have done a clean Windows install and the so far Battlefield 1 is much more playable. There's still a bottleneck, however the GPU Usage floats around 80% now instead of in the 30s. I am still getting playable 60 fps though. :)
 
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