Samsung 860 EVO M2.2 1TB and 960 EVO PCIe NVMe - M.2 SSD

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Hello, what are the differences between these two SSD?
Isn't M.2 = NVMe - M.2? The interface looks some what different.

Samsung 860 EVO M.2 1TB Internal SSD (MZ-N6E1T0BW)
Samsung 960 EVO Series - 1TB PCIe NVMe - M.2 Internal SSD (MZ-V6E1T0BW)
 
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M.2 does not equal NVMe. M.2 is just the connection. There are SATA III SSDs that use the M.2 slot and they run at the same speed as a 2.5" SATA SSD. The benefit is there are not wires.

The 860 EVO is just a SATA SSD that uses the M.2 interface and the 960 EVO is an NVMe SSD.
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M.2 does not equal NVMe. M.2 is just the connection. There are SATA III SSDs that use the M.2 slot and they run at the same speed as a 2.5" SATA SSD. The benefit is there are not wires.

The 860 EVO is just a SATA SSD that uses the M.2 interface and the 960 EVO is an NVMe SSD.
 
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Thanks. Is the performance of the 960 noticeably better? The 970 and a just announced SSD from another company (less expensive but similar performance. don't recall the name) are not available yet. Know when we can buy them?
 
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960 and 970 are both much faster, capable of 3200+ MB/sec sequential reads, vs. ~540 MB/sec of the 850/860, regardless of chosen form factor of the latter pair (standard 2.5" SATA or M.2 SATA, both capped at ~550/MB/sec)

NVME drives are much faster on paper, but, the difference for gaming is not as noticeable, perhaps a second or two shaved off of gaming load level times (24 seconds vs. 26, etc..), and a few seconds saved on bootup/shutdown, and MUCH faster total installs of OS, if ever required...(I was able to install Win10 Pro from USB to 960 EVO in about 4 minutes or so...)

They are worth the extra $100 expense, but, never compromise on CPU or GPU to afford NVME over a standard SATA, IMO....
 
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I depends on the application. The 960 is a lot better than the 850/860 in somethings, but for daily use it is hard to tell a difference. When I upgraded to the 960 EVO over the 850 EVO I could not tell a difference at all.

As for the 970, it is a very incremental upgrade from the 960. You wont tell a difference.

Western digital has a new NVMe drive that is out that is just as good as the 960 EVO in a lot of ways and a good bit cheaper too.

If you want the best though, you will need Intel Optane. They are very fast but also expensive. Not really worth jumping into right now.
 
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Regardless of the cost, which of the following is better?

Samsung 860 EVO M.2 1TB Internal SSD (MZ-N6E1T0BW)
Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" SATA III 1TB Internal SSD (MZ-76E1T0B/AM)

for 8700K/Threadripper systems?
 
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Thanks. They are of the same price. About lanes, are they pre-assigned or to be assigned on the fly? For example, if I use the NMve SSD, will the PCIe GPUs run slower ? The more NMve slots are used, the slower the CPIe GPU run? If I get the NMVe version, I will use up one slot.
 
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My Samsung 960 EVO NVME m.2 is finally in stock and arrived. Now the price of SSDs are dropping. Is it true that the 970 EVO is cheaper but also slower than the 960 EVO? Is the less expensive Samsung 860 Evo 2.5" SATA III 1TB Internal SSD (MZ-76E1T0B/AM) noticeably slower than these two SSDs? Considering to exchange for a cheaper SSD.
 
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Really depends on what size you bought, want; what prices you have; and what your use case is. "8700K/Threadripper" doesn't sound like you're entirely sure what you want to do.
A Threadripper system would be something you buy more for professional / productivity use, and has gobloads of PCIe lanes to fill with a tower of NVMe SSDs. A 8700K is more of a "delid, liquid metal, overclock to 5GHz" high-FPS gaming CPU. On the other hand, PCIe lanes are more limited. Inbetween those two, there's the Ryzen 2700X and whatnot.

Unless what you do involves copying big files from left to right (image or video processing), NVMe doesn't provide that huge an advantage.

From what I've seen in my region, the 970 launched at pretty low prices and the 960 models keep getting special discounts, so non-Samsung devices aren't that compelling. YMMV.
 
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I am looking for 1TB. Prices depend on whether or not it is worthed or not. There has been a big change in priority. A month ago I needed a high-end machine urgently so I was looking for the TR and 7900X. Now there is a change in my situation so I just need a reasonably good machine to get by before I get a multi-GPU system with PCI 4-5 components. So, having the fastest storage is not needed for the time being. Don't want to waste unnecessary money.
 
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Whichever is $1 cheaper, but, the 860 EVO in M.2 form factor is somewhat of a waste of an M.2 slot i...
 
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