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He has a budget of about 1100-1200. I have built a couple of computers myself so here's what I got

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Hz48r6
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Hz48r6/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8500 3GHz 6-Core Processor ($262.99 @ PC-Canada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($38.75 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($199.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card ($399.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
Case: DIYPC - DIY-F2-W MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($54.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: EVGA - 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1191.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-07 21:56 EDT-0400

I know that I have a non-K CPU with a z370 MoBo but he is planning to upgrade to a 8700K and OC it
 
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@logain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbLeuxIzxcA

That being said,
@OP: if you're building a system with the intention to upgrade it in the future, you should never gimp these three components:
- PSU
- Case
- Motherboard

For they define the limitation of what you can do to upgrade the build in the future. Outside of extraordinary situation, like cryptocurrency mining, GPU is the component that devalue the fastest out of everything, so don't overspend on GPU at the cost of other components, especially since the Pascal cycle has been with us for a very long time (a few days short of 2 years) already.

The cheap Z370 CAN ONLY hold an OCed 8700k if their VRM has sufficient airflow. Meaning no cheaping out on cases; top exhaust is a...
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($229.75 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler ($26.99 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($120.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($209.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card ($399.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1156.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-08 02:03 EDT-0400

The F2 chassis is really meant for MB with only 2 DIMM slots. put a 4-DIMM-slots-wide MB into it and you'll effectively have to route the cables through where you would mount the SSD.

Since the price of the GQ has apparently gone up since you've posted, I've changed the PSU to the Seasonic model that is having a $15 rebate on Newegg CA, not shown in the PCPP list.

And since I've changed the case, I've switched to the ATX version of the Pro4 which is currently cheaper ($150-40rebate vs $175-40rebate @ Newegg CA; neither are showing in PCPP).

Changed to a cheaper cooler (or you can omit it entirely for now) since an OCed 8700k is going to be way too much for the 212 Evo to handle.

Changed CPU to the 8400, since if you do have an aftermarket cooler, both would CPUs run at their Turboboost specs instead of the base clock, i.e. 4Ghz vs 4.1Ghz for single core and ~3.8Ghz vs 3.9Ghz all cores; which is not worth the extra cost.
 
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maxalge

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getting a 8700k with a 1060 is utterly wasteful






PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/9zGXyX
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/9zGXyX/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($229.75 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: ASRock - H310M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($69.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($199.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($599.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: DIYPC - MA01-R MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($73.42 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $1212.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-08 03:08 EDT-0400


for the money this is much better



now the question is, do you plan to get a stronger gpu?
if no, go with my build


if yes, then dont waste money on the 1060
get your build, but with a i7 8700k and a 550w seasonic focus gold

use the built-in until the next gen is released THEN buy a gpu
 
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Yeah I realized that the 212 isn't that good but from my usage with the Intel Stock Coolers are loud. But I will see if he can add anymore money to the budget. He isn't really in any hurry so I will show him what I got

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/LGcY9J
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/LGcY9J/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370P D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($139.99 @ PC-Canada)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($146.09 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($599.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: DIYPC - DIY-BG01 ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1231.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-08 15:41 EDT-0400

He could buy a CPU cooler and 8700K later
 
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Forget overclocking on such a low end Z370 board, with regards to an 8700k. Not enough voltage regulation for that power hungry chip. If this system is built with such future intentions, you are going to have to cut back somewhere to be ready for it. Not the greatest, but this board would be far better suited.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($229.75 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($183.96 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
Memory: Kingston - Savage 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($92.85 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($599.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: DIYPC - DIY-BG01 ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $1231.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-08 16:17 EDT-0400
 
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@logain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbLeuxIzxcA

That being said,
@OP: if you're building a system with the intention to upgrade it in the future, you should never gimp these three components:
- PSU
- Case
- Motherboard

For they define the limitation of what you can do to upgrade the build in the future. Outside of extraordinary situation, like cryptocurrency mining, GPU is the component that devalue the fastest out of everything, so don't overspend on GPU at the cost of other components, especially since the Pascal cycle has been with us for a very long time (a few days short of 2 years) already.

The cheap Z370 CAN ONLY hold an OCed 8700k if their VRM has sufficient airflow. Meaning no cheaping out on cases; top exhaust is a must. There was a guy who spent thousands of euros on an X299 build with a GTX1080Ti and then put those in an oven of a case and watch his GPU reaching 90 degrees Celsius. Don't make the same mistake.
 
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Alright final build taking everything into account. He could buy a better GPU and CPU+Cooler later when he saves up money.

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/cqtgbX
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/cqtgbX/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($229.75 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($170.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: ADATA - XPG Z1 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($199.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card ($399.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case ($67.95 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: EVGA - BQ 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($88.38 @ Amazon Canada)
Case Fan: Cooler Master - SickleFlow (Blue) 69.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($6.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $1163.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-08 19:34 EDT-0400

Is there anything left or is it ready to go and send it to him
 
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add ssd also help boost your friend performance get samsung evo 860 250 gigs
 
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