which cooler for overclocking 2600x

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Hi all,

I'm building my first PC and I want to overclock this AMD cpu. I Heard that the spire cooler from AMD is good enough, but I think I will go for a nice AOI water cooler because I always wanted one and I heard it's better.

my build will have :
- x470 plus
- 1060 6gb
- 16 gm ram 3000mhz
- 750w psu ( I prefer to overkill and keep my psu for 10 years +)

So I'm hesiting between those 2 ( my case is the meshify C mid tower)

the first one: Fractal Design Celsius S24 240mm
or
the second one: Corsair Hydro Series H100i V2

I'm pretty sure both 240mm will fit my case, but I want to be 100% sure.

thanks for the help!
 
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I prefer the looks of the Scythe Fuma Rev.b over the D15/S.

https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8409/scythe-fuma-rev-cpu-cooler-review/index.html

And no, the chances of a big tower warping a motherboard are extremely slim, limited to high humidity areas, and the chances of actual breakage only happen if drop or severely bounce the pc around, like during transport in a trunk on a dirt road. Most commonly, the only side affect of the big towers is with pastes such as AS5 after it dries out, any decent vibration breaks the dry seal and the paste is now useless powder and needs repaste.
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Id go with Corsair, Fractal pump isnt the best. And NZXT X52 is worth a shot aswell ( id prefer it) but Corsair H100i is good
 
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Your case is a very nice one with plenty of intake air capability.

Your overclocking limit on a 2600x is around 4.2 with a very good chip.
No amount of cooling will make a meaningful difference.

My suggestion is to buy a nice air cooler like a noctua NH-U14s or NH-D15s.
It will cool equally well, be quieter, easier to install, be more reliable, and will not leak.

FWIW:
My canned rant on liquid cooling:
------------------------start of rant-------------------
You buy a liquid cooler to be able to extract an extra multiplier or two out of your OC.
How much do you really need?
I do not much like all in one liquid coolers when a good air cooler like a Noctua or phanteks can do the job just as well.
A liquid cooler will be expensive, noisy, less reliable, and will not cool any better
in a well ventilated case.
Liquid cooling is really air cooling, it just puts the heat exchange in a different place.
The orientation of the radiator will cause a problem.
If you orient it to take in cool air from the outside, you will cool the cpu better, but the hot air then circulates inside the case heating up the graphics card and motherboard.
If you orient it to exhaust(which I think is better) , then your cpu cooling will be less effective because it uses pre heated case air.
Past that, A AIO radiator complicates creating a positive pressure filtered cooling setup which can keep your parts clean.
And... I have read too many tales of woe when a liquid cooler leaks.
Google for AIO leaks to see what can happen.
While unlikely, leaks do happen.

I would support an AIO cooler primarily in a space restricted case.
If one puts looks over function, that is a personal thing; not for me though.
-----------------------end of rant--------------------------

Your pc will be quieter, more reliable, and will be cooled equally well with a decent air cooler.
 
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AIO coolers do not cool the VRMs and other components surrounding the CPU. I would suggest a better air cooler if you are concerned about temperatures. I am using a relatively inexpensive Gammax 400 on my 2600X, and it remains essentially inaudible.
 
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I heard noctua has the best air cooler there is. it's around 60-70$ less for a air cooler. If you say that it will support my overclock 2600x then I will buy a air cooler. Only point I realllly love about water cooling is the look and the space it saves.

So with 2 pre-installed case fan + the Noctua air cooler I sohuld be fine on the air flow and fans ?

doesn't look like the NH-U14S support AM4 socket.
 
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Yes.
Good cooling comes first from having good intake airflow to the case.
Your case supports three front 120mm intakes with one fan provided.
You could add a second and be good. That is sufficient intake for a hot cpu and graphics card. 120mm fans are cheap, consider a third intake.
A single 120mm fan is provided for rear exhaust. Leave that be.
It is good to direct the cooling air past the cpu/motherboard and out of the case.
Whatever air that comes in the front will exit SOMEWHERE taking heat with it.
In addition, if that front intake is filtered, your parts will stay clean.

Your case has room for a 172mm high air cooler.
Here is the noctua TDP guide;
https://noctua.at/en/tdp-guide
Those coolers with *** can handle maximum overclocks.
Note also that the AM4 motherboard mounts are different so you will want the NM-AM4 adapter which may be included in newer packaging.
Or, the NH-D15-SE-AM4 cooler.
 
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BeQuiet Darkrock Pro 4, Noctua NH-D15S, cryorig R1, Scythe Fuma B, Scythe Mugen 5 B, Cryorig H5. Really any decent sized air tower will work just fine.

Although I do prefer AIO's. I like the looks and cleanliness better than a hulking great chunk of aluminium sitting right up next to the window.

While geofelts canned rant is warranted, even valid, the differences in temps usually range @ 2-3°C either way, so not really an issue with your case.

Onus point is far more valid, especially on high vcore demand OC, where there's a lot of heat generated in the voltage regulatory circuitry around the cpu. Aircoolers have bleed air, that's air the sneaks out the sides of the fins, and provides sufficient breeze to displace sitting air around the socket. With AIO's this can be an issue, but only if there isn't enough actual airflow from intake to exhaust.
 
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It will depend on what your MB do with AMD Precision boosting.

I have the 2600x on the Deepcool GAMMAX400 and the ASROCK X470 Master/SLI, in the Corsair 500R case with nearly all fan slots populated.

At stock, the ASROCK X470 would pump over 1.4V into the 2600x and overwhelmed the Gammax in ~20 mins (temps reached ~80 degrees Celsius before crashing). Requiring me to force a fixed voltage 4Ghz@1.2V and only then does the temps generally maxed out at 63 degrees Celsius (that's roughly ambient +30 for me).

If you are actually hoping for 4.2-4.3Ghz all cores, then AIO actually is the way to go.
 
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so I'm in a war between:

Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4 premium-grade 140mm dual tower CPU cooler for AMD AM4

OR

Corsair Hydro Series H100i V2

Also, I'm kinda scared the this air cooler bend overtime my x470, should I be worried ?
 
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Here's my view, if you're OCing on a strict budget, go for the GAMMAX400; if you can afford a bit more, go for either the Scythe Mugen 5 (SCMG-5100) or Fuma (SCFM-1100); if neither the Scythe cooler can provide enough cooling for you, then your best bet for a step up is to go liquid cooling, AIO or open loop.
 
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The U12S did ~59 degrees at max fan if I remember correctly.
 
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I prefer the looks of the Scythe Fuma Rev.b over the D15/S.

https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8409/scythe-fuma-rev-cpu-cooler-review/index.html

And no, the chances of a big tower warping a motherboard are extremely slim, limited to high humidity areas, and the chances of actual breakage only happen if drop or severely bounce the pc around, like during transport in a trunk on a dirt road. Most commonly, the only side affect of the big towers is with pastes such as AS5 after it dries out, any decent vibration breaks the dry seal and the paste is now useless powder and needs repaste.
 
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