GA-970A-DS3 Rev 1.0, upgrade to 16 GB RAM won't boot

May 21, 2018
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I've been through a lot of guides and forum posts and can't quite find the answer. I've been attempting to upgrade my RAM and it just isn't working. I have the following information on my system:

Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 Mobo
AMD FX-4100 Quad Core, 3600 Mhz (I think it is AM3+ but not certain)
Windows 7 64 bit
Have been running 2 X 4 GB Corsair DDR3 RAM - 1600

I've looked on several websites and all of them tell me that the Kingston HyperX Fury DDR3 that I bought is compatible with my board. It is 2 X 8 GB - 1866.

When I install it, 1 stick or 2, and plug the PC back in to fire it up, the PC will not boot. It doesn't beep, the monitor flashes the blue light and it just sits there. I reinstall the original RAM and it boots just fine.

I've looked at the Gigabyte website for updated BIOS information and they only have a beta BIOS update for my Mobo model and revision. I really don't want to go that route and it doesn't seem like it should be necessary.

The only thing I can think of is that I don't have an AM3+ CPU socket and thus can't take advantage of the higher speed RAM, but it seems like it would just be down clocked. I've installed it several times and made sure the RAM was seated properly with the tabs locked.

Any hints or clues about where to look would be great. Thanks.
 
Looking at Gigabyte's website for that board, it gives the strong impression that your motherboard was never released in an AM3 "non plus" configuration.

FX series CPUs are AM3+, so the memory controller is rated at up to 1866 MHz for memory support, but that doesn't mean your board or CPU is going to stably run the memory modules at that speed. Furthermore, you're not going to see significant performance over say, 1600 MHz memory, so in the end, if you can't run at the rated speed of the memory, I wouldn't be too concerned.

An FX 4100 CPU is based on the original Bulldozer architecture, and the memory controller in the Bulldozer series and later FX chips is terrible, having lower compatibility than the Phenom II CPUs that preceded them.

Your best bet is to go into BIOS and manually set your RAM to 1333 with the working set or a module from the working set, then try booting a single stick of the new RAM.

The manual does not make any special mention for which slot is preferred when using only a single module, giving only guidelines for dual-channel module configurations. With this in mind, you might as well try all four slots, after having configured the 1333 speed, starting the slots the manual lists as, "use first."

After you've set a compatible speed in BIOS using your working memory, start with a single module in DDR3_1, which is the socket closest to the edge of the board, or furthest from the CPU socket. If that fails to boot with the new module, try DDR3_2, which is the 2nd socket from the CPU socket, followed by DDR3_3, or the 3rd socket from the CPU socket, and finally, DDR3_4, the closest socket to the CPU.

If you can boot the system at 1333 with the new modules installed, you should be able to try setting the BIOS to use an XMP profile for the memory. If you can do that, it may just configure everything for you without any further need to fine tune things.

Keep in mind, if you can't get an XMP profile to work for you, you may have to manually adjust the voltage for your RAM to get it to run at it's rated speed, or even some lower speeds. Make sure you check what voltage is going to the memory modules and adjust it according to what the memory you purchased is actually calling for.
 
May 21, 2018
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So I reset the CMOS so I could get into the BIOS. I also tried to just let it boot after resetting the CMOS but that didn't work. I changed the RAM speed in the BIOS and saved. Now it tries to boot but won't load the OS. It says Windows failed to start and that I need to repair Windows. Also that "the boot selection failed because a required device is inaccessible". I don't have a repair disc. I think I have a USB thumb drive with a Windows installer on it but I'm not sure if that's what it's asking for.
 
If devices were configured a certain way to enable the correct boot sequence, resetting CMOS likely changed that.

Often times other hardware devices such as 3rd party USB or SATA controllers can be enabled or disabled, or be set in IDE mode, which you don't want for best operation.

After resetting your CMOS, provided you can get into it, you need to go through each setting and make sure it's set correctly. If you don't know how to do that, you shouldn't be wiping the settings, but what's done is done.

In the future, the best thing to do is take snapshots of each BIOS settings page with your cell phone camera or other digital camera so you can reference the previous, working settings.

So, if I understand correctly, with the memory speed set lower, you can now get into CMOS with the new modules? This is a good place to start troubleshooting.
 
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Thanks for the help, I think I got it sorted. I'm still baffled at why it wouldn't boot to start with because it's working great now at 1866 Mhz. Anyway, resetting the CMOS just changed the hard drive boot order so I had to fix that. After that it booted fine with old RAM so I swapped out to the new RAM and reset the CMOS again. Then I went in and adjusted the date and time and boot order and it fired right up with 16GB RAM.

I'll reiterate, I'm very baffled why it wouldn't even let me get into the BIOS before I reset the CMOS, especially considering that I now have it set to auto detect the RAM speed anyway and it is set at the same 1866 that it was set at the first time I got into the BIOS. It seems it just wanted to give me problems or teach me a lesson. I don't know? But it's working now so...happy face.