can my psu sustain a gtx 1050?

plshelpnoobxd · May 23, 2018

I have a 700watts generic psu and I want to know if I plug in that gtx 1050 will there be risks or nah?
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panathas · May 23, 2018

Generic PSU's are almost never good. However the GTX 1050 demands only a 300W PSU. So your PSU should be able to power it unless it's a pretty horrible unit. There are risks but they have nothing to do with the GTX 1050. A bad generic PSU is always a threat to the longevity of various hardware components regardless of power draw and if you stress it, it will certainly die and perhaps kill the motherboard/CPU/GPU. So get a new and better PSU if you want to avoid future headaches. Good luck.

camieabz · May 23, 2018

Running a branded 430 PSU here with a 1050. Would depend a lot on all the other kit though. Would be surprised if it couldn't handle it.

turkey3_scratch · May 23, 2018

This is easier if you tell us what your PSU is or post a picture of the label.

cryoburner · May 23, 2018

A GTX 1050 itself shouldn't draw more than 75 watts under load, so it's unlikely that an entire system with a 1050 installed would ever draw much more than 300 watts from the PSU. While having an off-brand PSU might be less than ideal for the safety of your hardware, and might have trouble hitting its stated capacity, it seems unlikely that it would be overwhelmed by a card with such low power requirements.

DSzymborski · May 23, 2018

But we'd need to see the label to be sure. While one would think a junk 700W PSU could at least handle a GTX 1050, I've seen a few fake 700W that were fake 200W PSUs as opposed to the more tradition 400W or so for a fake 700W.

plshelpnoobxd · Jun 17, 2018

https://ibb.co/cxWtNy here's the photo of the labels of my psu.

camieabz · Jun 17, 2018

Philippine market PSU, I think. Retailing for 500-600 PHP (£7 - £8).

I would try it, and have a better PSU picked out for later.

DSzymborski · Jun 17, 2018

Yeah, for all intents and purposes, that's a 192W PSU, not a 700W one. Given that there's no theoretical way to even call this a poorly configured 350W PSU based on the rails, I'd stay away from this. God only knows how horrid the parts inside are when they make such a blatant, outright lie at the start. There's not a chance in the world I'd even plug this into a socket in my house, let alone actually try running any PC parts on it.

plshelpnoobxd · Jun 17, 2018

O.K, what type of PSU should I replace it with?

DSzymborski · Jun 17, 2018

What country are you in? That'll make a big difference in pricing.

plshelpnoobxd · Jun 17, 2018

DSzymborski :

I live in the philippines.

DSzymborski · Jun 17, 2018

Anywhere you like to shop other than Lazada?

The Corsair VS 450 is the least expensive power supply they sell that I'd call a power supply.

https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/corsair-vs450-450-watts-power-supply-i131831168-s143787846.html?spm=a2o4l.searchlistcategory.list.2.5d6c3ae9X1sdiP&search=1

Not great quality and not something I'd want to bank on lasting more than a year or two, but still worlds better than the firestarter you've got at the moment.

The quality budget PSUs start around the Seasonic S12

https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/seasonic-s12-ii-520w-atx-12v-psu-i213696172-s275852352.html?spm=a2o4l.searchlistcategory.list.2.6b473c97m5cOiu&search=1

And the least expensive one at NewEgg Philippines.

https://www.newegg.com/global/ph/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151074

plshelpnoobxd · Jun 17, 2018

DSzymborski :

Thank you kind sir for your honest answers, everyone else too. I'll go ahead and list these down, I should've been careful when I bought this unit in the first place now I know what kind of abomination it truly is.

DSzymborski · Jun 17, 2018

plshelpnoobxd :

Yeah, power supplies are the places where dodgy companies can get away with selling shoddy parts, because the effects of bad power supplies aren't immediately apparent except in the most dramatic failure of the parts. A fake GPU you can see not running games or a low-quality keyboard or mouse feels terrible to a user. But ripple and poor voltage regulation and junky capacitors aren't obvious until significant damage has occurred.

There have been, on the low-end of power supplies, instances where the manufacturers actually replace safety components with small blocks of cement or scrap metal wrapped in tape, with the weight making it feel as if the power supply is more substantial than it is.

Take a glance at your PSU's label that you posted. If you look under +12V rail you'll see only 16A. Since the days of the Pentium III, the power-hungry components of PCs use +12V power. 12*16 = 192, which is why I talked about the power supply being for all intents and purposes a 192W PSU in the context of modern components like that 1050 you have.

Now, in a normal, but really old PSU, you can repeat that multiplication with all the rails and it'll add up to that claimed overall wattage number. In this case, it goes barely over 300W! That's the difference between selling an overrated PSU that was designed for the turn of the century PCs and outright fraud. A well-designed 700W PSU ought to be somewhere around 58A on the +12V rail. Something with an older design that has beefier +3.3V and +5V rails, you'll sometimes see 45-50A.

But 16? On a claimed 700W, that's way past the point at which we're dealing with good faith. The cough medicine that I buy at the store that claims to taste great, I'll take that claim as a little bit of creative advertising. But if advertised that it cured cancer, I'd be quite angry and hopefully the government would be too!

plshelpnoobxd · Jun 17, 2018

DSzymborski :

plshelpnoobxd :

Yeah, power supplies are the places where dodgy companies can get away with selling shoddy parts, because the effects of bad power supplies aren't immediately apparent except in the most dramatic failure of the parts. A fake GPU you can see not running games or a low-quality keyboard or mouse feels terrible to a user. But ripple and poor voltage regulation and junky capacitors aren't obvious until significant damage has occurred.

There have been, on the low-end of power supplies, instances where the manufacturers actually replace safety components with small blocks of cement or scrap metal wrapped in tape, with the weight making it feel as if the power supply is more substantial than it is.

Take a glance at your PSU's label that you posted. If you look under +12V rail you'll see only 16A. Since the days of the Pentium III, the power-hungry components of PCs use +12V power. 12*16 = 192, which is why I talked about the power supply being for all intents and purposes a 192W PSU in the context of modern components like that 1050 you have.

Now, in a normal, but really old PSU, you can repeat that multiplication with all the rails and it'll add up to that claimed overall wattage number. In this case, it goes barely over 300W! That's the difference between selling an overrated PSU that was designed for the turn of the century PCs and outright fraud. A well-designed 700W PSU ought to be somewhere around 58A on the +12V rail. Something with an older design that has beefier +3.3V and +5V rails, you'll sometimes see 45-50A.

But 16? On a claimed 700W, that's way past the point at which we're dealing with good faith. The cough medicine that I buy at the store that claims to taste great, I'll take that claim as a little bit of creative advertising. But if advertised that it cured cancer, I'd be quite angry and hopefully the government would be too!

Good Lord... I'm actually frightened about the current state of my pc now. This is perhaps the biggest rip-off in my entire life, by the time I bought this whole thing it was actually my birthday gift to myself. I didn't really think about the risks and probabilities of having such a dreadful "psu" guess I had to pay the price for being so care-free about it.

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