R3 2200G vs R5 1500X?

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I'm going to be buying a new system in the next month but I'm on a tight budget and so I will be going for a reasonably wallet-friendly build. I have decided on everything except for the CPU. My choices are the Ryzen 3 2200G and the Ryzen 5 1500X. I'm going for a lower end CPU on a socket that AMD claim will last a while so that I can upgrade it when I need more power. The 1500X is obviously the better CPU and since I have my own GPU I have no need for the iGPU in the 2200G. My problem is that the 1500X is over £40 more expensive than the 2200G. Is it worth the extra money or should I just stick with the cheaper CPU? The specs that I have planned are shown below.


CPU: R3 2200G or R5 1500X
CPU Cooler: The stock wraith cooler that comes with both.
MOBO: Asus Prime B350M-A
RAM: 16GB DDR4 3000MHz
Storage: WD Black 250GB NVMe as well as a few old mechanical drives I have.
GPU: Sapphire R9 380 4GB Nitro

Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.


 
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That depends on what you do.. and what you play. R5 1400's are out of production, the 2400G replaced it as did the 2000G replacing the R3 1200.

Not these are all stock comparisons.

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I'm not sure if where you are at they have the option for the R5 1400. Should be at or near the price of the 2200G but you get the benefit of a cpu that has 4 core/8 threads where with the 2200g you are looking at only 4c/4t. While most games won't really take advantage of the extra threads, they could be useful in the near future.
 
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Clocks are the same the difference is whether you want 4 Cores 4 Threads vs 4 Cores 8 Threads. In titles that don't make use of that you won't notice much of a difference but new AAA titles that will us more cores you will see the 1500X giving you 10 or more FPS. It really depends on what you play and what you expect out of Settings and FPS.


I have a 1300X matched with a 970 GTX and a 1600X matched with a 1060 6GB. For the most part I don't see a huge difference in Fortnight, D3, POE, GTA Online, Final Fantasy XIV, GW2, Rift or Project Cars but that is really all I play regularly and I don't use Ultra settings or care about fps above 60.
 
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I was thinking that but I couldn't find any direct comparisons between the two.
 
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I didn't see the R5 1400 when I was looking the first time. It's still almost £30 more expensive than the 2200G though. Is it worth paying almost half the value of the CPU again just for 4 more threads?
 
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In general everyday use would you see a massive difference in speed? I would hardly call myself a hardcore gamer so that's not my top priority however it would be nice to finally get way from my 5 year old CPU dragging my system down.
 
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That depends on what you do.. and what you play. R5 1400's are out of production, the 2400G replaced it as did the 2000G replacing the R3 1200.

Not these are all stock comparisons.

RYZEN 3 2200G vs RYZEN 5 1500X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcZ6tfB83-Q

RYZEN 3 2200G vs RYZEN 5 1400
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_SzcnBkLY0

In general day to day use and light gaming you won't notice a difference.
 
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You found those a lot faster than I could. Like you said, in light gaming I probably wouldn't notice the difference, the most intensive game I own in my steam library is probably GTAV and the 2200G should handle that just fine. Thanks for the advice.
 
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Depends entirely on the games used. In something like Civ4, the 2200g takes roughly 27 seconds to change turns, the 1500x at stock taking @19 seconds and with a decent OC @17 seconds.

The issue there is the L-cache. That's the on-die memory. The 2200g has to sacrifice space on die for its igpu, which is quite decent, unlike the 1500x which does not, so has full size ability. The 2200g has only 4Mb of L3 cache, the 1500x has 16Mb of L3 cache. When using any game engine where compute is a factor, like mmorpgs or other strategy type games, the 2200g is going to get dogged out vrs the 1500x. That includes any production apps that use similar designs. For light stuff like League of Legends or cs:go or even Overwatch, it's not so much an issue, but heavy open-world games you'll be goin for a cigarette break between loads.

That's the £40 difference. Ability in areas not restricted to what's equitable to both, the Simultaneous Multi Threads of the 1500x can and do make a sizable difference. In many games.
 
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Actually no RPG zone load times are highly dependent on Disk and Memory caching and not CPU cache. Change to a SSD and it gets insanely faster even with a CPU on the low end of what the game wants. L3 cache isn't as a big of a factor as you think now with the advancements in storage and memory speeds.

 
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I seen this but it's not very 'real world'. I was looking for the benchmarks that delaro linked earlier in the thread.
 
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I don't play a lot of those games that you mentioned except for maybe Overwatch and I don't even own any of the civilisation games or anything of their type. I think I might just go for the cheaper processor and then invest the money that I save into maybe a more powerful Zen CPU after they launch the new generation. Thank you for your input anyway.
 
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