I'm new to the PC building world and a new IT student. I'd like to create a budget level gaming PC starting with the APU, Ryzen 3 2200G. I chose this as a starting point since it would save me the money and headache of buying a GPU right now. I'm hoping to eventually purchase a GPU like 1060 or better after the new gen comes out, hopefully when they are cheaper. I'm wondering if I build an AMD Ryzen 3 2200G PC if later I can change to a better Ryzen CPU and get a separate GPU. Would thay be feasible. Also if I go with separate CPU and GPU build it comes to around $800 as apposed to an APU build for around $450 (with my components); so a big difference.
Ryzen 3 2200G APU to Ryzen 5 or higher Ryzen CPU
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AniChatt
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Yes you can build it right now and with 2200G and upgrade your components later. Few important points to note for APU ryzen build,
1. Buy at least 2666MHz or higher ram
2. 2 sticks of ram for sure. Don't buy a single stick or it will significantly impact your fps.
You can upgrade the cpu on same mobo at least till 2020 as per AMD
1. Buy at least 2666MHz or higher ram
2. 2 sticks of ram for sure. Don't buy a single stick or it will significantly impact your fps.
You can upgrade the cpu on same mobo at least till 2020 as per AMD
Shektron
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Yes you can upgrade down the line. The 2200G will work on a B350, X370, X470 or the upcoming B450 motherboard, so you can buy a motherboard with any one of these chipsets. According to AMD, socket AM4(which all of the above chipsets use) will be used by AMD till at least 2020, which means any AMD CPU until 2020 will be compatible with these motherboards, though a BIOS update will probably be required before upgrading.
What you are planning to do is absolutely feasible, and in fact a good option considering current circumstances. GPU's are finally coming down in price, but they're still a little off from MSRP in most cases, so it won't take a long time for them to become normal again, and Zen 2 will not be coming soon, since AMD just launched Ryzen 2 which uses Zen+ architecture. Either way, 2019 will probably when the next gen comes, of course it's up to you when to upgrade, but for now it's a good option to go with a decent APU like the 2200G, or perhaps the 2400G if that's not over-budget. Then upgrade down the line when better tech is out. Maybe wait for next-gen Nvidia cards, apparently they're coming in July, they might lower the 10-series cards' prices further.
What you are planning to do is absolutely feasible, and in fact a good option considering current circumstances. GPU's are finally coming down in price, but they're still a little off from MSRP in most cases, so it won't take a long time for them to become normal again, and Zen 2 will not be coming soon, since AMD just launched Ryzen 2 which uses Zen+ architecture. Either way, 2019 will probably when the next gen comes, of course it's up to you when to upgrade, but for now it's a good option to go with a decent APU like the 2200G, or perhaps the 2400G if that's not over-budget. Then upgrade down the line when better tech is out. Maybe wait for next-gen Nvidia cards, apparently they're coming in July, they might lower the 10-series cards' prices further.
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AM4 socket for Ryzen 2200g will be supported till 2020, MB with chipset support AM4 socket should have BIOS update for newer CPU release after the MB release date. But not all MB are created equal. Some are horrible for the price, some are just plain horrible. If you are building a PC with the intention to provide long-term upgradability, do NOT gimp the motherboard.
And then there are the other two components that make-up a very upgradable platform, the PSU and the case. Luckily though, at the level of hardware you were talking about, there's little specifics demand on these two components.
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For that $450 budget buy a good/decent mobo preferably X470 since in next upgrade you will not gonna change your mobo and also fastest possible ram since it will also stays with this build for long and give you best possible performance. Something like this,
PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q32RTB
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q32RTB/by_merchant/
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($94.59 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus - Prime X470-Pro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($177.39 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($161.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $433.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-25 03:23 EDT-0400
PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q32RTB
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q32RTB/by_merchant/
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($94.59 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus - Prime X470-Pro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($177.39 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($161.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $433.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-25 03:23 EDT-0400
Thank you guys so much. I really appreciate it. I'm definitely going to take your suggestions for a mother board that will upgrade well, and fast RAM. Currently my build uses an ASRock - AB350 Pro AM4 MB; I did call MSI and their support said the MB would work and support the APU with the later CPU upgrades as well but would just need a bios update first.
So I've chosen the Asus Prime X470 pro MoBo, and I'd like to use a G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8gb 3200 since it's a 8gb set of DDR4 3200 (Case 16) for $95. But that RAM is not stated to be supported on the MoBo other Ripjaws are. Should I go for this or add $50-70 for a different RAM that is stated to be supported and may be even bigger?
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Personally, unless the ASUS X470 pro is fairly cheap where you are, I do not recommend it for basic 6 cores/GTX1060 tier GPU. Especially if this is going to be your first build.
Why? Because the X470 Pro has no debugging features whatsoever. And the first time a Ryzen system boot up it's gonna spend a long time initializing and would be restarting several times to do memory training. If you don't already have other system to verify that all your components are actually working, you have less guarantee that the whole thing is going to be fine on your first boot up, which is always going to be a rather nerve-racking experience.
For your level of hardware and use case, the MSI X470 Gaming Plus would be the better choice as it is cheaper and does come with 4 debugging leds that could tell you what's causing problem in the event the system that you build does not POST.
Why? Because the X470 Pro has no debugging features whatsoever. And the first time a Ryzen system boot up it's gonna spend a long time initializing and would be restarting several times to do memory training. If you don't already have other system to verify that all your components are actually working, you have less guarantee that the whole thing is going to be fine on your first boot up, which is always going to be a rather nerve-racking experience.
For your level of hardware and use case, the MSI X470 Gaming Plus would be the better choice as it is cheaper and does come with 4 debugging leds that could tell you what's causing problem in the event the system that you build does not POST.
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May I recommend a HyperX 212 Evo cooler as well. I'm hitting 3.9 Ghz with 1650MHz graphics overclocks with it and still hitting 70-80 degree temps at full load on my R3 2200G.
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Haha, fair enough. Just recommended it because it has worked well for me, although I do agree, the mounting system is a massive pain in the arse!
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