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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/TCt28Y

hey guys so thats what i picked out so far , not too familiar with mobos and ram or storage , havent done much research on them yet, did you guys have any suggestions on what to do and what would be more cost effective etc etc.. looking to future proof and spend the money now so i dont have to for the next 5-8 years. i appreciate any feedback, cheers
 
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Here is the list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor ($448.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($129.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG Strix Z370-H Gaming ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($206.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($219.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($149.99 @ PC-Canada)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB ROG STRIX Video Card ($784.75 @ Vuugo)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($149.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($117.75 @ Vuugo)
Total: $2367.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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SSD, HDD and PSU were missing from your list. If you intentionally left them out then leave out those components from above list.
I included GTX1080 instead of GTX1080Ti as a place holder for GTX1180 which is just months away. I recommend waiting for it. As per leaks GTX1180 is around 50% more powerful than GTX1080 and around 20% more powerful than GTX1080Ti on paper which is huge performance improvement.
 
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so my question to you is why that mobo? and why that ram ? anything special about them? also i agree with holding off for the gtx 1180 thats a good idea. What makes the case you included better than the cooler master one?

another thing i have heard bad stories with water cooling which is why i have stayed away from it , is having water cooling worth it? how often would i have to change the liquid, last thing i want is there to be a leak and destroy all my parts


 
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That Motherboard comes packed with lot better QC(MSI failed me time and over in Motherboard department Note: Their GPUs are of great quality) and many additional features. It comes packed with best software support in the market.

That RAM comes with same speed and matches the theme of the build.

That Phanteks case packs in great quality components throughout the build. But mainly it is far easier to handle and comfort to work in compared to CM.

The failure of AIO has become myth after launch of Corsair gen2 AIOs. There may be some failure in CM and Thermaltake AIOs. But since the launch of Corsair Gen2 which has been out for a long time there have not been a single case of failure in them. Corsair has the best QC system. You will not face any problem with Corsair H100v2.
 
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AIO (All in One) watercoolers are very popular now; they come pre-filled and sealed, and usually have warranties covering damage from leaks for a number of years. The liquids in them dont need changing.

Corsair do some very cheap ones that work very well, although the radiator fans arent the best; these days the basic 120mm AIO prices start around £35
 
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really?? you never have to change the liquid ever? also I noticed you mentioned to get the full tower but i was hoping to get something a bit more compact, and will i be able to install the radiator that comes with water cooling at the front on the mid tower? and when it comes to installing the radiator do i put the exhaust fans on and then the radiator? which would be essentially pulling the hot air from the radiator outside
 
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That Phanteks Enthoo Pro M is Mid-Tower case. I recommend installing radiator on top. If you install in front then you will have to install it as intake and you will be pushing hot air in instead of pushing it out. You cannot install radiator in front and have it pulling hot air out. As it pushes hot air out the hot air raises and then enters into system from top as you will be using fans at top as intake which will heat the system up over time. It is recommended to use front fans as intake and using top fans as exhaust. If you install your radiator on top it will give you better results.

Yes use your fans to pull the air from radiator out of the case. Be careful wile screwing on the radiator and don't try to over tight the screws.
 
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alright thanks buddy, i had one last question, is it worth it to get cpu liquid cooling or to just stick with air cooling? also is liquid gpu cooling worth it?

and if i did go with liquid cooling how often should i replace the liquid cooling?
 
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There will be no requirement of changing the liquid in AIO as it is closed loop and the liquid inside cannot escape. There will be no loss in liquid levels. AIO is better for cooling. GPU liquid cooling do improve performance but that will get you into custom loop cooling which is worth the effort but only if you have enough budget.

No need to replace the liquid cooler till the next time you get a new PC.
 
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A bit late, but;

Putting the water cooler radiator on the top of the case gives the best results, as hot air rises, so helps the fans push the air through the rad and out of the case.

Next choice is rear, but you will only be able to fit a 120/140 AIO here.

3rd option is on a bracket handing off of the rear; just last week I found such a bracket in the Phantek box, just as I was throwing the box out; although I dont seem to remember it on the parts list.

This last option would mean turning the rear fan around, so it blows out of the case, however it does mean you can fit nearly any size of radiator; even a 480mm.

Last and least is the front, for the reasons already mentioned.
 
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yea i read that putting the radiator at the top gives the best result as well, so would you recommend the radiator at the top with exhaust fans pulling the heat from the radiator outside ?
 
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The fans are more effective if they are PUSHING the air through the radiator; a more advanced option is to have fans on both sides of the radiator, in what they call Push?pull configuration, so the one fan PUSHES air into the radiator, and the other PULLS the air out of the radiator.
With matched fans, this can make a huge difference to the cooling ability of any watercooling set up, but only if your case has enough room to fit it all.

One thing to remember; is to clean the case filters and the radiator airways every month or so, to stop dust and fluff restricting the airflow.
 
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MERGED QUESTION
Question from beasmodeee : "Rate my new build?"

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/p8rdHh
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/p8rdHh/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor ($444.00 @ Amazon Canada)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H115i PRO 55.4 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($179.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($244.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($283.23 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($176.99 @ PC-Canada)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($117.09 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB ARMOR Video Card ($969.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($124.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($149.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($117.75 @ Vuugo)
Total: $2809.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-07 18:49 EDT-0400
 
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