Velociraptor vs FireCuda

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pineapplenotonpizza

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Before I begin, I would like to say that before anyone suggests I go to an SSD instead, I already have one.

Okay! So I have done research into the Velociraptor and FireCuda, specifically the 3.5" FireCuda 1TB and the 500GB WD5000HHTZ Velociraptor. As I have seen, the random read of the Velociraptor is better than the FireCuda. The FireCuda seems better in writes. Does this mean a Velociraptor should be better or even equal to the FireCuda in game loading times? Thats my main focus. Load times. Even though the FireCuda has 8GB of flash cache, that cannot handle a whole game.
 
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fredfinks

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You have an ssd? Good, now get another.

mx500 500gb is $124. 1tb is $249 from newegg.

This stuff is very old hat and you're wasting your time trying to squeeze out old tech this way. There's a VERY good reason they don't make raptors any more.
 
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Only one?

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pineapplenotonpizza

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AFAIK WD still makes Velociraptors. "Raptors" are an older variant, that, yeah are old as dirt. Velociraptors are only 6 years old. Yes, I only have one SSD. I do not plan to store large amounts of game data on flash celled storage that has a greater failure rate than a hard disk. So the Velociraptor and the FireCuda come to my mind. Still waiting for an appropriate answer other than people constantly telling me to get more SSD's.

I want to know if the random reads of the velociraptors would entail faster loading times over an SSHD like the Firecuda.
 
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fredfinks

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They dont. I think they stopped production in 2015.
I just call them all raptors. The last one i had was a 600gb velociraptor that i sold around 2013. Dude, i used that as a torrent download disk.

Youre worried about reliability , ive been burned by faulty SSDs before. The Supertalent 256gb drive that rocked up in 2009 failed twice.
Then i bought intel only - rock solid. After the Samsung 850 evo drives came out, Samsung only. - rock solid.
Micron are great too. Cheaper than samsung & intel but dont doubt their reliability.

stick to those 3 brands and you have nothing to worry about. I would put their reliability WAY above any standard HDD (i only buy wd blacks. HGST are good too).

Honestly you need to come to terms with the tech and what year we are in. Youre asking which horse is better? get the one called Toyota with black round rubber feet.
 
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pineapplenotonpizza

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Reliability is not the only thing I am looking for. I am looking for a HDD to buy in-bulk to store games. I am not looking for a 130$ SSD.

My question has yet to be attempted to be answered, but at this point I don't expect it. Just constantly 'buy an ssd!' from everyone so I am going to go with the Velociraptor since it is reportedly having faster random reads (which games use more than sequential) than a FireCuda SSHD.
 
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fredfinks

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yes the raptor will win, apart from files loaded into firecudas cache.

Arent you only looking at 500gb raptor? Theres a reason everyone is telling you the same thing. What more can we do? You have been lead to the water and now its your choice to drink.
The water is refreshing, that kool-aid in your hand is not.
 
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The FireCuda will be "faster" in read, for those data blocks that live in the 8GB SSD space. Anything not in that SSD space will read at typical 5400RPM HDD speed.
And any write actions will happen at 5400RPM speed.
The Velociraptor will be the same speed across the entire drive.
 
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If you want to play with 8-10 year old drives with zippy-sounding names that are actually relatively slower than dirt (compared to modern SSDs), knock yourself out...; but SSDs are 4-5 times faster at game load times, and bootup is 10-15 seconds instead of 65 seconds........

Samsung, Corsair, Intel

(Linux distros are still fast as heck even on slow laptop drives, however! And who doesn't need a good CentOS and/or NethServer distro running in HyperV for tinkering purposes?)
 
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