Streaming 720p60fps with an i7 2600k or i7 3770k

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Hello guys, I've got an Intel Core i5 3570k, which ran smooth as butter for what I needed but I recently got into streaming and it is not anymore. I'm looking to buy an i7 2600k or i7 3770k. Which one would get the job done better? I'm am looking to stream games like Fortnite, PUBG, Rust, APB Reloaded and I'd like to be able to smoothly stream at 720p60fps with a decent bitrate in OBS. My internet is not a problem.
I've got a GTX 960 2GB and 16gb ram.

Thanks in advance!
 
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Before you buy anything, I suggest you do some research; the last set of benchmark tests I saw, with Intel and Ryzen cpus, gaming and streaming showed that, although the Intel chips ran the game faster, they couldnt cope with producing a smooth stream, and dropped far too many frames; whereas the Ryzen chips, with their extra cores, showed consistent game play and game play plus streaming results, with few if any dropped frames.
 
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Actually it depends, performance is very similar, but we are looking at overclocking capable CPU's, and if memory serves me right the 3770k can overclock farther. If the OP's board supports overclocking that CPU I would get the 3770k and overclock it as you'll see a bigger increase over the 2600k, the two CPU's are very similar, but we aren't talking about just gaming, we are talking about gaming and streaming. Which is where the newer I7 3770k would shine against the older 2600k, also, what would be your budget for it? If you wan't to game and stream I would push you towards a Ryzen system if you wan't to upgrade, a Ryzen 5 1600x or 2600x system would whoop either of those I7 overclocked at game streaming.
 
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Purchasing either of those chips most likely won't give you the performance increase per additional cost.
The 2600k will have a better chance of reaching an overclock to 5ghz, depending on what motherboard and cpu cooler you have (due to the CPU being soldered).
You'd be better off utilizing a second PC for streaming, if you have one lying around then use your primary one for gaming.
If this can be done, it will buy you some time to save up for a new system that can do both.
 
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My budget is a max of 100 euros for a second-hand 1155 socket CPU that can get the job done. + around 30 euros if I get to sell the i5 I currenty have. I have the Gigabyte P67A-UD4-B3 motherboard and a Zalman Shark Fin Blade cnps10x Optima as a cooler. A full system upgrade (mobo + cpu) just isn't possible at the moment or the near future. I would really wish for a final answer. Is the upgrade worth the money or not at all?
Btw thanks everyone for trying to help!
 
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I suggest looking at i7 3770k playback/performance videos on youtube with similar hardware specs you are inquiring about. For example, if PUBG does not play well in those videos, it definitely won't if streaming is added.

 
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The i7 2600k shouldn't run much cooler than the 3770k, the 2600k has a 32nm process, while the 3770k has a 22nm process, much smaller therefore allowing better overclocking and less heat output. If your overclocking get the 3770k. If your not going to overclock get which ever you can find cheaper, without an overclock the two CPU's perform fairly closely with the 3770k pulling ahead slightly in gaming over the 2600k due to the higher base clock and boost clock.
 
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But will I see a big difference in streaming with the i7 CPUs stock? Will I notice the improvement from my current i5 to the i7 or would it just be a slight change? Also about overclocking, the BIOS menu of my motherboard looks old as fuck and I have no idea if it is good for overclock or if my current cooler can take the heat.
 
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That cooler is a pretty good tower cooler, similar to a Hyper 212 EVO in size. It should be able to take the heat of overclocking. Also, that board supposedly has 12 phase power delivery, according to the Gigabyte website, which should be plenty to overclock on. Also you may need a BIOS update for 3rd gen Intel support, all you'll need is internet access and a USB drive for that. As for a difference with the I7, you'll see a difference between your I5 and you'll have Hyperthreading which will help quite a bit in gaming and streaming. As for a difference in the I7's, at stock it would be fairly small, it's only when overclocking comes it that the two CPU's split ways, the 3770k will be faster overclocked v.s an overclocked 2600k, but stock they will be very close.
 
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That cooler is a pretty good tower cooler, similar to a Hyper 212 EVO in size. It should be able to take the heat of overclocking. Also, that board supposedly has 12 phase power delivery, according to the Gigabyte website, which should be plenty to overclock on. Also you may need a BIOS update for 3rd gen Intel support, all you'll need is internet access and a USB drive for that. As for a difference with the I7, you'll see a difference between your I5 and you'll have Hyperthreading which will help quite a bit in gaming and streaming. As for a difference in the I7's, at stock it would be fairly small, it's only when overclocking comes it that the two CPU's split ways, the 3770k will be faster overclocked v.s an overclocked 2600k, but stock they will be very close.[/quotemsg]

Thank you for the help! Now that I've got all the info I need, I know what to choose :)
 
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Overclocking Intels DOESNT help them stream any better, in fact it makes them worse; at least that is what the streaming reviews I read a few months ago came up with, and that was with the OLD Ryzen chips.

The latest i7 8700k did a decent job, but last gen chips were terrible and couldnt keep a smooth stream without dropping frames; I think it was the 7700K that was dropping up to 90% of the frames, despite being nearly as good as the 8700k when benchmarking the game only.

If you just want to dabble, lower the game gfx and go with what you already have; if you want to get serious, save up and buy a Ryzen set up with one of the latest R5 or R7 cpus.

The issue comes down to not enough cores or threads in the Intel chips to do both of these very intensive tasks well at the same time; the i7 8700k was the only Intel chip that was really able to beat the Amd chips.
 
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AMD pretty much always had Intel beat at core count, with FX and now Ryzen, and even beating Intel to the punch for dual cores. I find it extremely hard to believe that overclocking Intel CPU's leads to worse performance, it actually makes no sense. What I think may have happened is who ever did the testing didn't test the overclock fully and the overclocks may not have been fully stable, I would still get one of the I7's even if you don't overclock since you'll be getting higher clock speeds and be gaining Hyperthreading, which I5's lack, which will help a lot in streaming and tasks that can't use more than 2 or 4 cores, so gaming.
 
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https://www.tomshardware.co.uk/game-streaming-encoding-coffee-lake-ryzen,review-34144.html
 
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