New SSD studies - implications for maximum performance AND maximum reliability?

pnartg

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I do a lot of video editing with Premier Pro CC and I often have other apps such as Photoshop and an office suite running while I do it. Currently I'm all HD but I want to put SSDs in the mix for higher performance. The question is what will give me the best performance with the smallest hit on reliability?

On these forums I still see people saying that SSD reliability is read/write cycle limited. But that's based on older, smaller laboratory studies. In recent years there have been several large scale real-world studies in datacenters of Google, Microsoft, and Facebook that contradict this. An IEEE article examines these: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?arnumber=8013175

Here's a summary of one study for lay readers (I've bolded notable items):
http://hexus.net/tech/news/storage/90920-google-datacentre-ssd-study-offers-surprising-conclusions/
... from the latter . . .
- SLC drives, which are targeted at the enterprise market and considered to be higher end, are not more reliable than the lower end MLC drives.

- Age, rather than usage amount correlates to higher error rates. So flash memory wearing out isn't really a problem with the SSD designs we have now.

- Between 20 and 63 per cent of drives experience at least one uncorrectable error during their first four years in the field.

- Between 30 and 80 per cent of drives develop at least one bad block and 2 to 7 per cent develop at least one bad chip during the first four years in the field.

- RBER (raw bit error rate), the standard metric for drive reliability, is not a good predictor of those failure modes that are the major concern in practice.

- RBER and the number of uncorrectable errors grow with PE cycles in a linear fashion.

- UBER (uncorrectable bit error rate), the standard metric to measure uncorrectable errors, is not very meaningful.


... so all of this seems to suggest that the "common wisdom" is upside down. Using the SSD's for stuff like page files and swap space may be less of a problem than people think, despite the old idea that they are read/write cycle limited. On the other hand using it for permanently installed files, like program files, may be a bigger risk than we thought if you want to avoid having to reinstall key software or OS files frequently.

How are people here digesting these new studies from Google, Facebook and Microsoft and how should I apply it to spec'ing a system for maximum performance AND maximum reliability? Thanks in advance!
 

g-unit1111

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Honestly pretty much any of them are these days. Samsung and Crucial are widely considered the best of the best, though Corsair, Plextor, and Western Digital / Sandisk make some solid units as well. The only ones I would really stay away from are the super cheap ones (less than $70) because SSDs are one area where you get what you pay for.

On these forums I still see people saying that SSD reliability is read/write cycle limited. But that's based on older, smaller laboratory studies. In recent years there have been several large scale real-world studies in datacenters of Google, Microsoft, and Facebook that contradict this. An IEEE article examines these: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?arnumber=8013175

That's something that used to be true in the early days of SSDs but after several generations of drives they've been improved on that significantly. You still should never overload your drives, but the days of worrying about whether or not your drives will slow down after a number of read write cycles is something that you should no longer have to worry about.

How are people here digesting these new studies from Google, Facebook and Microsoft and how should I apply it to spec'ing a system for maximum performance AND maximum reliability? Thanks in advance!

Are these current threads you're viewing? I know a lot of older threads from this site tend to pop up when you Google search various hardware and IT topics, so a lot of this stuff you're seeing probably is no longer current information. The thing is you should always do *CURRENT* research when you buy new hardware because you can't rely on things that used to be. We live in an era now where computer hardware changes at a very drastic rate and things change all the time at a far more rapid pace, so information can get very outdated very quickly.
 

TJ Hooker

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Age, rather than usage amount correlates to higher error rates. So flash memory wearing out isn't really a problem with the SSD designs we have now.
This sentence is poorly worded by Hexus to the point of being wrong. It should say: "Age, in addition to (and independently of) usage correlates to higher error error rates."

They even state that error rates increase with P/E cycles (which is synonymous with "usage" in the referenced article) a few lines down:

RBER and the number of uncorrectable errors grow with PE cycles in a linear fashion.